Alliance Stories.

pawn1980

Guest
Actually karen. Many players that joined us from LOM speak extremely highly of you. So i have to assume that TW has valid points.
 

vallenteno

Phrourach
Although I would consider myself a gamer since my teenage years, I've never played a PC MMO, much preferring Xbox gaming for the social aspect. I heard about Grepolis at work from a dying man. I worked on a Nursing Unit specialising in end of life care, and had a good relationship with this man, we had good conversations and laughter and he was the one who pointed the game out on the TV. This man died on Boxing Day 2012 and I found myself looking up Grepolis to see what it was all about.

It seemed complex at the start trying to understand the gist of the game, the rules, how things worked etc. I felt quite chuffed with my little city worth 1800 points, then I saw Starfish Bear on the same island had one worth over 4K – wow, I need to catch up I thought. I received invitations from Faith Jokers and Night Watch, and not knowing what this really meant I joined Night Watch. Because I was active on the forum and helped others, I was given a leaders role along with some others. Angelic Upstart was the diplomat and our founders were generally never around. My base then was O56 and we had pacts with those all around, so we could grow.

Eventually Apathetic started eating our pact mates and for some reason Angelic Upstart decided to merge with the same pacts Apathetic were attacking. Although this didn't really make much sense to me; I thought it was the same as fattening Night Watch up for Christmas and a sure way to cheese Apathetic off. Our name changed along with the merges to Night Guardians, and I was shunted over to Night Guardians RA to help train and educate the smaller players. At this time we had quite a few players over in O35/36 and I was forever sending support out to Lord Arcano who was constantly harangued by AotG and Matsimus, and to Pereksle (still playing) who was also frequently under attack. In order to try to help these outlying players more efficiently I moved into O46 as a stepping stone.

Once it was clear that NGRA wasn't working, I was brought back into NG and given founders rights. I knew at this point that something was afoot as Angelic had gone very quiet on Skype and had seemingly dropped off the world. Angelic and one of the founders had arranged with Apathetic for themselves and a couple of our best players to join Apathetic. It was already clear that Apathetic wanted to consume NG as we were the only other alliance left in O56. I felt that Angelic had sold us all for slaughter :supermad:. I had around 15 cities at the time (I think) across O46/56 and felt that I personally would be their main target (as I gave 100% morale) and I felt that the smaller players would have more chance of continuing playing without me, so I contacted KOM and 13th with a view to joining one of them – they had both been in a pact with NG and Apa.

It was Val's message that made me join KOM, and the fact that an exNG friend had commented to me on the state of 13th forums and the reasons he'd quit 13th and the game. Val took me onboard, into leadership and I was met with a very warm and understanding welcome from all the guys in their Council. Once I'd joined KOM, one Apathetic player put around 11 or 12 of my cities in revolt. Apa claimed I was a refugee (even though they never attacked me before I joined KOM, I was just top of their Most Wanted list and had thwarted their plan by moving to an ally) and a whole argument started on the shared thread with Apa, KOM and 13th which made Apa look quite foolish as they tried to lie, bluff, make excuses, contradict themselves, etc. The guys from KOM and Graeme from 13th stood by me through all this and eventually everything was quiet for a while.

I think it was around this time that I moved into O35 with Pauke, Jem, exe and a couple of others I think. Unfortunately, my city didn't last long after TradeMarc had been pounding the gates :eek: and I never ventured into O35 since.

Without warning, Apa suddenly started to attack KOM one day when Val was in VM. We were pretty much caught on the back foot by it, but I feel it overall strengthened us and helped us to bond. Constant attacks from Apa ever since forced weaker players out and made the strong stronger. One thing in KOM was that we cared about our brethren, we helped each other, we were there when we needed each other, and we fought back to back against what sometimes seemed like insurmountable odds. Sure we lost cities, but despite being attacked from all sides by 3 bigger alliances we still managed to take some enemy cities in return. We'd got our own inactive problem more or less under control, we'd got standards being maintained and whilst we weren't winning, we weren't losing as much as 13th were.

We had a shared tab with 13th , which showed how much 13th were struggling against DW. Merge talks cropped up. My view was that 13th were crumbling fast with the Senate players too busy arguing whilst losing cities all around them, they didn't seem to know what each other was doing and seeing that Graeme had left them, poor Bobbob ended up the scapegoat for everything. They seemed like elders who would still be sat arguing when all that's left is the burning remnants of a village. I also felt that 13th used and abused KOM, they expected our support but were still friends with our enemies. We were treated as their meatshield in O46 to keep Apa off their backs. There were many instances of 13th players defending ME or AO against KOM :Angry:. Underhanded tactics were in play which I'll not go into, but the players who did it are still around but not in LOM.

During our time in LOM is the period that I actually thought that this sort of game isn't for me. There is too much lying, backstabbing friends, cheating and cavorting with the enemy. I'm from a sports background, so would expect sporting behaviour, but it didn't exist in LOM or this game. To have one leader say they shouldn't have to send support out to others shows how little they cared about other players, the alliance or whether there would be another red flag on the same island :Angry:. It became soul destroying seeing these so called leaders do nothing for anyone else, other than build their own cities, buried in their own support that they're not willing to share :supermad:. This is not leadership, it's not team work, it's not sporting, it's self-centred and selfish. All the pressure is transferred to those who are making the effort to succeed and we really don't need the parasites.

When exe0 left, I was gutted and felt like I'd lost a limb :(. Despite his forum antics here, he is the best player I've seen in Grepolis, his work behind the scenes was phenomenal, his dedication and strive to make the best for his alliance was unfaltering despite all the knock-backs. I understand that he couldn't continue, but I so much appreciated his unswerving loyalty and his caring nature (yes, caring – that isn't a typo, people didn't look hard enough to see this because they're too busy stuck up their own jaxeys thinking they're cool because they have a crown).

In KOM , Val nicknamed me The First Lady, and I will always be his first lady. He has shown courage in the face of all your (enemy) adversity, grit, shouldered any burdens on behalf of his alliance, kept in touch with forums and players, sent out attacks and support to help anyone who needed it. He has been a truly respected leader by all KOM, a respect which he earned due to his activity, personality, fairness, balance etc.

I considered my own position in this game, thought about leaving/ghosting/permanent VM etc. I also considered challenging Mr Starfish Bear to a 1 v 1 city duel so I could leave in style, :p. But, I've decided to stay loyal to all those guys from LOM who have shown loyalty and faith when others fled to the enemy and abandoned them.

So now, I'm with ME which is an alliance I've never had dealings with. No doubt Apa will continue their poundings to get me out of O46, and I notice that DW are probably going to move into O46 too

This was the best read and probably most accurate account of alliances in this world. I will also mention that as KoM we never back stabbed Legion, this is important because every alliance here can tell their own story of an ally back stabbing them or doing side deals..I done heard them all form NF having allies and they back stabbed them to other alliances doing it.
 

exe0

Guest
As time progressed the new danger alliance was NF and we started to have talks with TSO to end the war. This is when i got to know Exe0, he took over the alliance at this point. Him and I would talk often about what we could do together IWW and TSO. We decided to defend the cities of TSO, we figured we could make DBP to grow without being in direct danger.

As we defended we could not keep up with the non stop destruction of NF on TSO. While i promised Exe0 that we would stand together my other leaders saw the inability of TSO's destruction. I was over ruled by the other two leaders and we stated that we would not assist TSO anymore in defense. At this point we started speaking with NF to set a NAP, (we knew we could not survive long with their numbers if we went to war). This was a difficult point for me because i feel i betrayed Exe0.
And the oscar goes to Pawn :eek:!!!!

Actually what happened pawn is fairly similar to what you wrote but is lacking in some key points.

1.You already had a NAP in place with NF while IWW had a running pact with TSO
2.You never informed me of your plans with NF, i figured that out myself when i noticed some friendly city exchanges between IWW and NF

Ya you did betray me hence the reason for my war of words with you and Swarren over the last 12 months,also the reason why i call you Two-Faced Pawn because you are the 2 headed Wolf in Sheeps clothing :D

Don't worry though at least you finally admitted your screw job in some way....lol it only took you a year :heh:

I was rewarded by having my name and leadership capabilities tarnished while you were seen as "The Good Guy"

Well done Clap Clap Clap

When you go to bed every night after this world is over and shine your imaginary crown ask yourself

Do i really deserve this?, Did i do enough to earn it?
 

pawn1980

Guest
Incorrect.

We did not have a NAP with NF. After multiple attempts to protect TSO and looking to work together offensively. The result was TSO had to many players in to many ocean and could not hold structure. The was the reality. You became fully defensive and not even coordinated like KOM was. The alliance was a MRA and if you would of removed a great part of the world and focused on one ocean at the time, they might still be here today.

If you asked any of the member we defended from TSO our numbers we sent? They would respond we acted with our full capacity.

Now when you see the writing in the wall. You either admit it or ignore it. The other two leaders saw the writing and let me know that TSO would not survive. I as well saw the reality. I did not like it, but had to concede. That is what leadership has to do sometimes, make the difficult calls.

If you have not been there, than you truly have never been a leader.

At this point talen began talks with NF and we ended the support for TSO.

You can call me what your wish, its what you do best. Lower yourself to child like behavior. I wrote my experience, you disagree, which is your right. But not once did i accuse you of being an ineffective leader, or leading the destruction of TSO. I think the damage was done before you even arrived.

Over the last 12 months i did not exchange words with your because, the Exe0 i met running TSO is not the one that present himself here. You act like a child, and rather start arguments than present anything of substance.
 

fella8

Phrourach
Just done chapter 1 of my story, wrong thread **** hanging head in shame**** ****massive face palm****. Look in idalium is failing
 

pawn1980

Guest
Just read your review fella. It was awesome, well written and really captured those moments in the early days. Cant wait for the next chapter.
 

Ryann16

Strategos
Im going to do all I can now so it wont be as long as your stories, but this will be my first post on the external forums.

I started this game back on the Gamma Server in the early 2000s. It was en3 if i am correct. Anyways I was young and I didnt know anything about the game so I had my cousins guidance. When the world closed I took a break from the game for a while.

When 2012 was coming to an end I decided to start back up again. I was lucky enough to join the newly opened server Idalium. I was lost and I did not grow fast at all. I joined a small alliance named Sky Hawks who then later turned into S.W.A.T and then into Ravenclaw. Ravenclaw was a powerful alliance, they knew what they were doing, and they werent scared of a fight. I was falling behind and not keeping up with the alliance, so one morning I logged on to find out that I was kicked.

I was scared and I didnt know what to do so i tried leading my own alliance for awhile. I took members from S.W.A.T and made my own alliance. We were MRA and we could not possibly fight off the rest of the world because of how small we were. We were ripped apart by Idalium Federation, so we ran to ST6.

I arrived in ST6 with some of the other active members of my alliance to find that I had no voice or opinion in this alliance. Any thoughts i had were shot down by the council. The alliance did not operate well and had Pacts with everyone on the server. Thinking I was ready for blood, I left ST6 and found an alliance named KoM. I was still a coward at this time and I hid behind the lines of KoM as they fought NF, and DoD. I did not support them and I did not communicate in the forums, but for some reason they let me stay in the alliance.

One day, (being stupid), I messaged Vallenteno and told him I would get info from NF to help with the war. I left KoM and received an Invite into NF from a good friend of mine, ppakulski. I was attacked immediately, waves of attacks coming non stop. KoM had mercy on me and only took one city which I am thankful for otherwise I would not have survived this server.

I recovered in NF, where I stayed until they collapsed. PP helped me gain cities in o44 and I started helping in the war effort. I was told to focus on Mannowar along with my friends yeha18 and xzerus, while the rest of NF was getting ripped apart. We put an end to Mannowar and then shortly after NF crumbled. All of us got invites into the 13th as refugees, but one man stayed behind. Ppakulski. He hated the legion so much, he did not come over until every single active person in NF was gone. Here i remained a foot soldier and PP again found himself on the council.

In the 13th I did not help with support at all, as i did not fit in. I forced myself not to support our allies KoM, and I was silent for most of my time there. KoM ended up merging and forming LoM which I was again not happy of. One day ppakulski decided he was leaving the game, so I left the alliance. I lost a city to APA alone, but gained one in wolf territory. Pawn remembers this as I went back to LoM instead of sticking to my word and going to DW. They took their city without even trying, and I did not request support from my alliance. A few weeks later, the arguing started. Council members started attacking their own members, and Ana was the only one to say something. Her and Exe0 got in a argument on public forum so I decided to post as well. I posted the report of getting attacked by my leaders, only to get a negative response. I said very mean stuff to people i called friends, and finally I left.

DW took me in and sent support to all of my cities. LoM took 6 and left me hanging by a string. I took a beating but i recovered and started hitting LoM back. I was full of hate and did not stop until LoM collapsed. That is when I realized I was attacking mostly inactive players... Now I am here in DW and have already launched a few attacks in this new war.

This server has taught me a lot, and I am happy i have had the experience. I lied about a lot of things to get my way, and looking back on it I was pathetic. I would like to apologize to vallenteno, first of all for betraying you, not once but twice, and secondly for our harsh messages a few weeks ago. I do not expect you to except my apology as I do not deserve it. But I will say, I am looking forward to fighting you in the new war :D

If I missed anything please say so...
 

Nakierza

<b>King Andromeda</b>
I started in April of 2013, I was told to play Greepolis by a close friend of mine. I joined, knowing nothing about the game, but I read up on strategies and how to play Grepolis, little by little. I started off fairly slow, and I was orginally going to join I think it was called RA, but the alliance disbanded, and I was left without an alliance. I was told it was because of Apathetic attacking them or something. I then was invited into Pheonix, but they also went down the drain. Then I got an invite into N.F., which even with my noobiness I could tell it was not that good of an alliance. It was then where I think Sniper Karen started to attack me, at the time I don't even think I had two cities. I asked support from my friends and I ended up swimming in BP. To further escalate it, I tried to get SK to attack me more by sending her childish messages :). So this went on for sometime and I finally got 10,000 total points. I then applied for KOM because my friends were in there, and I was kindly accepted by Snorman. It was here where the alliance seemed pretty well off in my eyes, everyone was kind. I stayed in KOM and grew, trying to attack and support with the very little troops I had. I stayed in KoM for 16 days until one day my friends did something wrong, which because of me being close friends with them, I was kicked. I understand this, but there was a bad rep that I got for all of that happening. I am guessing the leaders of KoM had sent a message to all of the alliances, so it went like this. I joined NF again after I was kicked, but I was kicked for the leaders of KoM saying that I was probably spying. I then joined M.E., which I found them to be kind. I was then kicked again because of KoM. I was kicked so fast it doesn't even appear on my alliances that I have left and joined. I then tried again and joined 13th Legion, which I didn't even last a day in because KoM again messaged them to not accept me and what not. By that time I was pretty piss3d off , I mean I couldn't even join a decent alliance because of something that didn't involve me. So I started up my own alliance, which the only member was me. I stayed in it for about 5 days and then I decided that because no alliance would accept me, I joined The War Vets. By that time I had 60k points and had decent troops. At the time ME and AO were attacking them, so I had been sending a lot of people support, I did get good bp from it though:). After that I tried to apply for the last alliance that I could apply for, AO, in which I was accepted into. They seemed like an o-k alliance, but I was again kicked. During that whole time though, I had been constantly building up in points and BP, so I decided to try and get into Apathetic. I was accepted. At this time I was very glad that they took me in, when no other alliance would. As soon as I joined, I could see that all of the members in Apathetic were like a small family, everyone was super nice to each other and everything went well. I couldn't help much but I tried and tried and I eventually grew to the point where I could actually help. At that time we were attacking KoM and I was very glad that we were since they basically embargoed me from almost all alliances :c. A couple of months later, we got the news that KoM and 13th were merging. I really didn't know what to think about it other than I freaked out a little in excitement about what was to come. Sadly it wasn't what I thought it would be. It was difficult but we managed to successfully defend against them and then fast forward everyone knows what happened. So that is my boring story lol, this game gave me more drama than high school 0.0 .....
 
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fella8

Phrourach
My Story, chapter 1

I joined this game just before 2012 x-mas, i saw a advert on t.v and thought i'd give it a crack. I was a complete noob and knew nothing. Perhaps i'm still the same....

My first alliance i joined was an alliance called the musketeers, if i remember right the leaders name was Walleby86 or something like that. AS many alliances did at the start of this would it wasn't long before we were sucked into the MRA alliance commonly known as TSO. It TSO i must admit it was a complete shambles, constant arguing and bickering and mostly run by children who were as new to the game as i was. I found 2 friends in FSM5051 and God666 we helped each other out abit.

One day i logged on to find that God had abandoned ship and jumped over to our enemy, the Swine Veterans, he stated what i already knew, TSO was a joke of an alliance. A week or 2 down the line FSM pm me stating that he was taking the move also and that i was welcome to come with. The rest was history, i'd join the swine veterans lead by the legend himself General Dissarray. The friendship between myself, God and FSM grew but we now had general along with us. I'll never forget the then big nasty Bondholder (compared to me at the time) revolting 1 of my cities, I asked for support and the Vetrans duly replied in style (especially general). It was the first time i'd clapped eyes on a fleet of 300 birs, my man crush on General had begun and i was having some of that bir fleet action myself.

I'm not sure why the Swine Vetrans ended but what i do know is that the General found us the best possible new home in the powerhouse alliance known as DoD lead by 2 other good friend of mine now Alex (Rexlex) and John (Jturck). If the step up in class was obvious from TSO to The Swines then the move to DoD from the Swines would create a tent in any blokes pants, these guys were quality. In DoD my friendship with God and FSM flourished, we cause havoc (General hit VM for a good while), anything and everything 1 of us did you would be sure the other 2 were along for the party, we grew and we grew some more and fast. TSO and NF got ripped apart with devastating effect.

Now the story become interesting. IWW decided they wanted to declare war on us, a few days notice was given, we're we bothered.... not really, quite a mistake! These guys were organised, they knew what they were doing and given the location of my cities it was only a matter of time before i was a target. Although DoD possessed quality players, my cities were not exactly in a great position among the core. The war started.... Sydney Hacker received a absolute battering loosing many cities in a short space of time, Sydney's cities were in worse located positions than my cities and his inability to communicate lead to him being ripped apart. We all tried to help him but it was a loosing battle. Then it was my turn...... The attacks came thick and fast and extremely well coordinated, they revolted 4/5 of my cities each weekend for 4/5 weeks but snipe after snipe and stack after stack the Wolves were unsuccessful, my friend in DoD would not let me get turned over.

During our fighting, conversations between myself and the leaders of IWW started (I never PM anyone 1st), after a month of battling each other (mainly IWW hammering our cities on the outskirts) i had gained quite a relationship with the Pawn and Swarren. Each time they didn't succeed they would congratulate, and once a CS's was spotted i would kindly let then know beforehand that it was off to Davy Jones's locker. Now i haven't mention that NF were supposed to being coordinating along with IWW against us, i feel no need as IWW did 95% of the graft. Conversations between me and Pawn started edging towards " DoD and IWW sounds much better than IWW and NF", within a week or so i told John and Alex that they should have a chat with Pawn because something could be on the cards. The rest is history, IWW and DoD became friends.

I'm doing my story in chapters because i cannot be bother anymore right now I'll only do more if it is wanted

Chapter 2 IWW and DoDcan't sleep so thought i'd do a bit more

So the PACT was made and both IWW and DoD players were ever so eager to get to know one another better, IWW used a thing called Mumble where players could talk to one another and some us DoD players were wanting in on the action. Great chats were had discussing are battles with each other, respect for each other was obviously apparent.

At this point in the game i lost my 2 buddies in FSM5051 and God66 and was gutted to say the least, i'd lost both my right hand men, what was i to do??? New buddies were made!

Are next move was to address NIght Fall, they were number 1 alliance and had a presence in our oceans so we set about destroying them. NF cities in O34 dropped like ripe cherries but i must say to you all that DoD players were responsible for this rather than IWW. One NF player in particular at this time really got under my skin, Andrewk. Andrewk was one of the only NF players that actually took part in ops against me when IWW and NF working together against DoD. The problem was that he would send obscene messages whilst attacking saying he was the best and everyone else was rubbish, basically verbal diarrhea because his attacks were poor, noobish you could say (i changed a city name to state this fact). I wanted to show this little punk how to play, so i set about attacking him and planned to take a city but things didn't quite go to plan. Once having one of his cities in revolt Pawn mention to me that he was talking to him via pm and that NF, Andrews own alliance had turned on him and were revolting his cities. Pawn wanted to try help him so he instructed IWW to send support to his cities barring the city i had i revolt, I thought this to be a terrible idea and voiced my concerns only for support to be sent regardless. It all turned out to be complete an utter rubbish, Pawn had been tricked and my conquest attempt received no help because of this false info and NF sniped the CS. As you can imagine, Fella was not a happy chappy. Andrewk hit VM never to return..... Or so i thought but that comes later in this epic story.

A few weeks down the line DoD were hit a blow when a top player of ours decided that this was not the alliance for him and created his own (the Regulators), Ted Snow known to many as Teddy. The guy quickly became a thorn in our side by supporting our in actives, clever but it would end out to be foolish. We had to put a stop to this! So NF got placed on the back burner for a week, Teddy was having it! IWW didn't want to take part in this so DoD set upon him, 3 days later, job done, VM hit. It was slightly annoying when he finally ghosted that IWW thought it be fair that they should take some of the spoils (cities), after all we DoD players did the hard work.

Anyways back to NF but this is also where KoM make a cameo appearance . DoD and IWW continued with there main target NF but if i'm being honest it was mainly DoD again doing most the damage. IWW were absolutely instrumental in defending our cities in o35 where KoM had decided they would have a pop, KoM did take a few cities but once IWW got their troops down to our players they would more than struggle. So DoD continued to chip away at NF cities and it became apparent that they were on the verge of collapse, the only reason i noticed this is because all of a sudden IWW had some new players. It seemed us DoD player were laying the smack down and IWW were recruiting the players. Now i can only speak for myself but this was slightly worrying, If IWW recruited all these good NF players would there be any need for DoD anymore??? A push for a merge became something that we really needed to think about.....

NF were finished, all that was left was o44 for them. The merge talks between IWW and DoD leaders were in full swing. We had plenty left to attack but there was more chance of me being voted best looking man on the planet than receiving an attack on one of my cities and the same went for everyone else. Pawn wasn't keen on a merge in all honesty as he thought it would draw attention to us as the alliance to beat, we might get ganged up on. The thought of getting ganged up on was a good thing in my eyes, ACTION!!!! Now, i'm not a leader but Alex (rex) and John (turck) also wanted to push the merge through for whatever reasons and they are the leaders. After what seemed like months of talks the merge went ahead. A super sexy alliance was created!

Chapter 3, coming to a computer screen near you soon!
 
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vallenteno

Phrourach
Im going to do all I can now so it wont be as long as your stories, but this will be my first post on the external forums.

I started this game back on the Gamma Server in the early 2000s. It was en3 if i am correct. Anyways I was young and I didnt know anything about the game so I had my cousins guidance. When the world closed I took a break from the game for a while.

When 2012 was coming to an end I decided to start back up again. I was lucky enough to join the newly opened server Idalium. I was lost and I did not grow fast at all. I joined a small alliance named Sky Hawks who then later turned into S.W.A.T and then into Ravenclaw. Ravenclaw was a powerful alliance, they knew what they were doing, and they werent scared of a fight. I was falling behind and not keeping up with the alliance, so one morning I logged on to find out that I was kicked.

I was scared and I didnt know what to do so i tried leading my own alliance for awhile. I took members from S.W.A.T and made my own alliance. We were MRA and we could not possibly fight off the rest of the world because of how small we were. We were ripped apart by Idalium Federation, so we ran to ST6.

I arrived in ST6 with some of the other active members of my alliance to find that I had no voice or opinion in this alliance. Any thoughts i had were shot down by the council. The alliance did not operate well and had Pacts with everyone on the server. Thinking I was ready for blood, I left ST6 and found an alliance named KoM. I was still a coward at this time and I hid behind the lines of KoM as they fought NF, and DoD. I did not support them and I did not communicate in the forums, but for some reason they let me stay in the alliance.

One day, (being stupid), I messaged Vallenteno and told him I would get info from NF to help with the war. I left KoM and received an Invite into NF from a good friend of mine, ppakulski. I was attacked immediately, waves of attacks coming non stop. KoM had mercy on me and only took one city which I am thankful for otherwise I would not have survived this server.

I recovered in NF, where I stayed until they collapsed. PP helped me gain cities in o44 and I started helping in the war effort. I was told to focus on Mannowar along with my friends yeha18 and xzerus, while the rest of NF was getting ripped apart. We put an end to Mannowar and then shortly after NF crumbled. All of us got invites into the 13th as refugees, but one man stayed behind. Ppakulski. He hated the legion so much, he did not come over until every single active person in NF was gone. Here i remained a foot soldier and PP again found himself on the council.

In the 13th I did not help with support at all, as i did not fit in. I forced myself not to support our allies KoM, and I was silent for most of my time there. KoM ended up merging and forming LoM which I was again not happy of. One day ppakulski decided he was leaving the game, so I left the alliance. I lost a city to APA alone, but gained one in wolf territory. Pawn remembers this as I went back to LoM instead of sticking to my word and going to DW. They took their city without even trying, and I did not request support from my alliance. A few weeks later, the arguing started. Council members started attacking their own members, and Ana was the only one to say something. Her and Exe0 got in a argument on public forum so I decided to post as well. I posted the report of getting attacked by my leaders, only to get a negative response. I said very mean stuff to people i called friends, and finally I left.

DW took me in and sent support to all of my cities. LoM took 6 and left me hanging by a string. I took a beating but i recovered and started hitting LoM back. I was full of hate and did not stop until LoM collapsed. That is when I realized I was attacking mostly inactive players... Now I am here in DW and have already launched a few attacks in this new war.

This server has taught me a lot, and I am happy i have had the experience. I lied about a lot of things to get my way, and looking back on it I was pathetic. I would like to apologize to vallenteno, first of all for betraying you, not once but twice, and secondly for our harsh messages a few weeks ago. I do not expect you to except my apology as I do not deserve it. But I will say, I am looking forward to fighting you in the new war :D

If I missed anything please say so...
I apologize for my message as well, we both got out of hand. I am glad you admit why KoM attacked you as I never would agree to sending a person into an alliance as a spy nor do I use them. I am not sure how much fight you wil get out of me or how long I am staying,,I am only here now for a few payers,,if I can convince them to leave with me into another world then ill be casper here lol
 

vallenteno

Phrourach
Yeah my turn to tell a story :). I can not remember when I started here, it was in December I can tell you that, play to many worlds :) When I started this alliance of KoM I only recruited 5 players at the time as I knew I wanted to stay small..snorman, ballin were the first to come and were original knights. Although my alliance never topped over 60 players it was an alliance built on a few mini mergers of players. I can not recall all the mini alliances but the players mjdan,paul,stephen,exe,karen, whom all are top players in this server were recruited after weeks to months(exe) lol of me talking and helpig each other as proper allies should do

Not even a month into the server with an alliance of 20-25 players, NF started to make threats and demands on my players in ocean 45. This is the first time I ever reached out to make a pact with any other alliance. It was Legion whom I contacted and Erato was my main contact at the time. Erato nor legion were interested in a pact with an alliance as small as mine so we were forced to take on NF whom was 4 times our size. As the war started NF took 1 city form us, after that we took 4-7 in a weeks time. It was only the fact that KoM was bunched up on islands and NF were spread at the time that allowed us to survive and take their cities. Later learning NF was also fighting Legion. Once Legion saw or realized we were at war with NF as well and having success, a NAP was then established and started to start talks with Grame as he seemed to be more reasonable in the form of a pact then any other Legion leadership.

Months went by with the war with NF in which if I am correct they took 5 cities to our 35-50 of theirs. We still had a NAP with legion, not a pact as I guess we were to small to be taken serious. Through another mini merge I had taken in a few players in coeans 55 and 23 I believe..Paul and his crew were ocean 55 players and became a great assets to KoM,,while I did have a few in oceans 23, it seem now we were getting hit by DoD. Me being diplomatic reached out to the leader of DOD at the time and expressed the idea we both had a common enemy in NF and maybe they can leave the few stragglers I had in ocean 23 alone, well it fell on deaf ears I purpose because the attacks increased and they took out my 1 player there by the name of POP something.

This now started our second war, As many of DoD were to far to engage i purposed that a select few knights go into oceans 35 to engage DoD. I can tell we took them by surprise as the guys cities we did take had low wall as and the defense was not as superb as what we see now from them. We instantly got a nice foothold into oceans 35, this was also around the time I recruited EXE and a few of his best into KoM,,if this game was like the NBA draft you can say at KoM we picked up a few awesome pieces and never did a full merge, but took our times and engaged players. EXE was the real and main reason we were able to get into oceans 35 as I let him lead the charge against DoD, and he did well. I can not recall the stats on the war but I do now when it ended with DoD/IWW merge we had taken way more cities then they had took from us.

Months went by with us fighting both alliances, we finally got a pact with Legion, as this was the only alliance I ever wanted to have a pact with as they were close to us and I had great relations with many of them. I have to admit KoM were always looked at as the little pup or not as equals to the bigger legion. Every war we had to help defend our own and Graeme will tell you KoM was always ready to have Legion back . This made things a bit rocky between players in both alliances but me and G always kept the balances in check

This is when I first noticed and alliance named APA, really didn't know anything about them as we never engaged them nor did I see them in any major wars. G mentioned to me about having a pact with them. I have to be honest and admit, when I first started talking to APA I figured we would both be primed to merge as we both were small, both seem to have the most active players, and looking at stats seemed to kick A. Of course in many arguments I have had here with Turd, I made apparent who there enemies were at the time,,sea people,my little ponies..okay Ill stop,,Ill get back to them later.. Anyways they seemed like a cool group of A kickers who didn't take mess, kind of like KoM was. I had great talks with phillip, and he can tell you that I wrote him many tiems about joint ops and such as I felt us,legion,and APA would whoop this server.

Well months went by and all 3 of us started to take out more NF, now mind you all here, we as three alliance never did joint ops, we were all pact mates,well as APA says our pact was just on paper,,I didn't have a clue it was so worthless. This is when APA started to show their true colors,as a heated debate was in place between me and beez,turd on a few players. I will not draw this out to long but Karen already mentioned why they attacked us,their pact mates at the time. Pretty much a double standard and 2 founders who were not going to back down in their stance of who was right or wrong..me and turd.

APA unleashed massive attacks on karen(my last awesome piece to the KoM legacy) without warning. At the time, the same day I wrote Grame and told him that in order for us to engage APA we must have a cease fire with NF. I came to G as were allies and wanted to know if he and his allies would be okay with this as it meant NF will solely focus on Legion. Again as allies we never did joint ops but the fact we were both attacking NF at the same time improved both alliances odds in the war. G said yes handle your business with APA, i contacted NF the same day and asked for a cease fire, and it was granted. Now all this is one day I remind you all, Turd messaged me that same day and said, we were pact mates and we shouldn't be fighting like this, he said although his guys attacked out the blue they would not take any cities, so I said okay and the real paper pact was in place n APA eyes. I told my alliance we will not engage APA, which was one of my biggest mistakes as we should of fought them then. Now I have a cease fire with NF and no enemy in APA,,felt really dumb at this point,,luckily NF didn't honor the agreements of the cease fire and we were back at war in a few weeks later :)

Weeks to a month went by and I took a month VM, I returned to see DW,NF,APA, and some how ME were at war with us. I again will not go into the details on the betrayal of APA to back stab their allies, as you all seen it in other threads.

I was extremely shocked to see that our main ally Legion was standing on the fence allowing us to be attacked by so many. This is when the real strain and questioning of our pact. Many times I asked and pleaded with legion to step in as we were allies before APA and we did a hell lot more for them then APA ever did as far as wars and support. It fell on deaf ears, This was not G fault nor the few in Legion, after the merge I can see why Legion was undecided about actions as they had a few players in there with a simming nature and only cared about themselves,,they didnt even care about their own alliance. it took the merge there to see this and I am truly sorry because Legion was poised to be the best alliance in this game.

Almost a year had passed with KoM fighting 3-5 alliances with no aid until maybe a month before we started talks about a merge did legion aid in ME attacks,,never with APA..So here comes LoM,,an merger that took months to complete and many messages between leaders and friends in both alliances. Me and G vision was always to merge at WW times, but the politics of this game with the back door deals made for our merger many months sooner then we wanted. Laughing at it now, I think me and G both new this merge would be hard because he knew the type of players he had as I knew the type I had,,the personalities do not mesh at all :)

You take the few in legion that wanted to pick flowers, never support their brethren, complain about everything and mix them with a group of off at the server players, loud trash talking and prideful players and you get the LoM senate lol. We did some great things as LoM but the few destroyed what we could of had, While there I gain respect more for G as I don't know how he could of taken that for so long, Gained a new friends and warriors in Dazz,2kee,midnight,ana,smish,eury,bob,93adn,leechal,quan, had a few words with ppalu,tim, and star but couldn't hate on their commitment and dedication to fight and defend. There are a few more but these guys were council and tried to change things for the better of LoM, but in the end less then 6 months it was to much to bare on many. I went on another VM just to return and see many were speaking of leaving to other alliances, me have RL issues couldn't lead LoM like it needed to be lead and G had enough of the bickering..This lead to the destruction of LoM as DW took in many players, a few I had knew about months before this even happened. Other to APA and the rest to ME,,a few of my knights went to APA/DW, but the core are in ME, as through out of all this ME is an alliance that was like KoM, a bit looked over and ME were used in my eyes by DW/APA..we never shoudl of been in wars with ME, and I never had the animosity towards them as I did with the APA back stabbing and the DW manipulation of the server..yes the manipulation lol,
 
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Quantam

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Wow. That was a lot more interesting then my story of simming for 8 months :)
 

pawn1980

Guest
Fella: I have to disagree with one point. The war with NF.

I was not sure but because i was curious, i checked when DOD and IWW merged. That was on 8/8/13.

From the first city taken by IWW from NF towards this date. IWW had taken 159 cities from NF. That was the count of cities. If IWW would just sit back and do nothing that number should be a lot lower.

The first city taken from NF was on 3/25/13 by a player named waxen from DOD. Now looking from this point until 8/8/13. They took 81 cities from NF.

But readers should know that DOD did take multiple cities from many other alliance they were fighting during these points. They had wars with other alliance that affected a focused war with NF. While IWW only had one enemy in there oceans, NF.

You can check all this info on grepolis stats. I don't think i made a mistake with numbers but you could confirm. I don't remember the exact date IWW started the war with NF so i used the first city taken from them as the starting point. So can't say 100 percent sure on the numbers. The first city taken by IWW from NF was on 5/4/13 by player isammu. During these 4 months the count was 159. Most of these cities taken where in ocean 42/43.
 

fella8

Phrourach
Fella: I have to disagree with one point. The war with NF.

I was not sure but because i was curious, i checked when DOD and IWW merged. That was on 8/8/13.

From the first city taken by IWW from NF towards this date. IWW had taken 159 cities from NF. That was the count of cities. If IWW would just sit back and do nothing that number should be a lot lower.

The first city taken from NF was on 3/25/13 by a player named waxen from DOD. Now looking from this point until 8/8/13. They took 81 cities from NF.

But readers should know that DOD did take multiple cities from many other alliance they were fighting during these points. They had wars with other alliance that affected a focused war with NF. While IWW only had one enemy in there oceans, NF.

You can check all this info on grepolis stats. I don't think i made a mistake with numbers but you could confirm. I don't remember the exact date IWW started the war with NF so i used the first city taken from them as the starting point. So can't say 100 percent sure on the numbers. The first city taken by IWW from NF was on 5/4/13 by player isammu. During these 4 months the count was 159. Most of these cities taken where in ocean 42/43.
How many of these cities were taken from the date of you ending your relationship with NF and starting your relationship with DoD would be the number which matter m8. I can't remember dates but i'm pretty sure i'm correct, grepointel doesn't show if you took in actives (reds) DoD attacked anything in the way, IWW may have cleaned up the leftovers which again grepointel doesn't show. Which was the first gerpolis treat thing that IWW and DoD were in on together? ie easter, halloween, x mas, grep olympics (can't think what you call them so treat thing will do). We'd be able to see numbers better then but it still would not show what i mention above.

I think it was a case of Scrubbing Bubbles "We do the hard work so you don't have to"

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I'm going to emphasis on this some more as i posted when pretty tired and you'll no doubt rip my 1st reply apart.

It is pretty clear for everyone in the world to see that DoD was an ultra aggressive fighting alliance. It is also clear for all to see that DW are still and aggressive alliance but something has changed.... The tactics of going for in actives is something that happens a lot in DW now, it didn't happen in DoD, so what changed? The in active taking was a IWW tactic and it has been brought to the DoD players.
So although you bring the stats forward that that contradict part of my story, i still believe what i say to be true. I believe DoD made those players go red by basically beating NF up through our aggressive style.
You must remember i took over a month of attacks from IWW when in DoD without loosing a city, as soon as we started working together we went straight after NF. IWW could not become a powerhouse attacking forces in such a small space of time but they could quite easily take in actives.

I'm not saying IWW did nothing at all Pawn, i'm saying DoD did the majority. Just my opinion
 
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Graeme0161

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I suppose I better tell my story

NF were one of the best alliances in the early days, led by (can't remember, but they were full on attack,) attacking everyone, (except us the 13th)
we had 2 pacts at this time Redwood Originals and Ravenclaw, Redwoods were run by Maccat a player who I can truly say I hated with vengeance (possibly the only player I have ever hated) and Ravenclaw were led by Eury and KimFields,

we were hitting hitting LoL can't remember what it the initials stood for, but eventually cantareli the leader at the time joined us,

while we was hitting them,

NF kept trying to get into our ocean 45, even though we had an agreement to stay out of each others oceans there's 44, ours 45, NF did not like being told this and tried numerous ways of doing so, set up a sister alliance to recruit in 45 whom we hit, then eventually merged into NF, increasing there numbers from 11 to 29,
we then had discussions with our allies Redwoods and Ravenclaw to start fighting NF, Ravenclaw were already being hit hard by NF at the time so they was up for it,
however Redwoods, decided a merger with NF was in there better interest and did so, booooo!!!

after there merger we merged with Ravenclaw, this went really well as KimFields an eury were very nice, decent players,

Anyway back to the war, so it all kicked off with NF and 13th, this IMO allowed the world to establish itself slightly, you may not remember but in the early days , NF were kicking everyone's butts, and no alliance was growing due to there strength,
the war was fairly even, but I think we had the advantage as we were only interested in 45, and eventually we got NF down to 5 cities in this ocean, this seems to be when everyone started turning there attention to NF, they were getting hit by everyone, (a story repeated in this world way to often) eventually many of there players ghosted including Maccat,Yeah!!!!!

this left us twiddling our thumbs for a bit, we allied Apa and KoM at the time, I noticed in a forum thread that not many alliances had controlled the 4 main core oceans, so I thought, what the hell lets go for that, so it was free reign to hit any alliance that we was not allied with to get this, which we did and controlled until our end, (not many people knew this)

(this I believe was my 1st mistake) no wars just minor hits to get the goal, we sat still simming and growing and not warring anyone, very boring, and the players started becoming less active as there was no need to log in for the odd day as no one was hitting us

eventually KoM and Apa started a war, This happened while Val was in VM, and anyone that remembers the forums at the time will remember how KoM handled diplomacy while Val was away,
as Val says we sat on the fence, (another mistake), my reason for doing so was because, yes Apa was out of order for there initial starting of the war, but anyone that was on these forums at the time would agree certain players made it so easy for hatred and the war to carry on, they did themselves no favours.
This major Diplomacy caused many problems for KoM and they ended up being hit by all except us, we went for easier targets and stayed out of this, (again another mistake) more simming, I had lost interest as well.

DW then took there opportunity on us and took a lot of distant cities from us, without much fight, this must of made them think they are up for the taking and then moved into 34, 44 again with very little resistance, kicking our butt
we did try to retaliate, but not to any real gain, we "the 13th" had been simming to long and had lost the will and a good few players, internal arguments happened, players ghosting or just leaving the game out of boredom

KoM was being hit hard by Apa and Apa was kicking there butts, ME was hitting KoM, we was being hit hard and having our butts handed to us by DW,
I always got on with Val (top chap) so we started merger discussions, even though I feared the worst knowing I would not be able to get on with certain players, just not my type of character, (if I am being honest this was going to be my escape) get the merger and walk away, however due to Val being a top chap, I stayed.
even though there was a merged alliance it was always a us and them attitude, constantly I would see it in the forums, arguments constantly happened,
more and more simming players were being listed as inactive, to come back and cause arguments, in our general forums, seeing they was under attack by there team mates,
internal arguments, under pressure from all sides, we were falling apart, eventually fell a part.
Beaten by a better run alliance!

all in all,
13th did great at the start
bad mistakes from leadership, (me)
Thinking of wonders way to early, not carrying on any wars, going for the 4 core oceans, sitting on the fence while our allies fought each other, we should have chosen a side.
this led to simming players becoming even less active,
No option but to try and get 2 alliances being battered to work together,
Never worked 2 complete opposites
more arguments, attitudes
eventually leading to our demise.

live and learn!!

I have enjoyed this world, met some very friendly people, whom I would love to play with again in another world, have also met people that I would love to fight in another world :)

good luck with the rest of the world, I am enjoying my unbroken sleeps and family life, :)
maybe see you around
 
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TurdWrangler

Guest
The condensed version of Apathetic.

I started the alliance as a means to keep the MRAs from trying to recruit me. I had intentions of being a pure power-player. the type of player with over 75 cities. however as fate would have i invited a few friends over from another server and picked up a few scallywags and the rest, as they say, is history.

Our intention was always to be the number 1 ranked alliance with under 100 players, we easily achieved that goal. Another goal was to be the most aggressive and dominating force on the server with the number of players we have. we've done pretty well in that regard, too. but in the early days it was enough for us to fly under the radar of the larger alliances until we were primed to challenge anyone who'd dare cross us, or attack us.

We never lost a city until one was gifted by Jeroenimus to acidburner of Night Guardians in March of 2013 (we had a pact with them at the time.) We never lost a city to Night Fail, but we were able to take plenty from them. Then there was a brief squirmish with ME and while they managed to take a few cities from us, we picked up many more. Back then they were kind of the MRA whipping boy after NF had curled up into the fetal position.

Things have definitely changed, i actually respect ME now, their players are smarter and better coordinated than in the past and i fully expect them to make a viable run at WW. However the powerhouse in the server is still DW, we never really had any dealing with IWW, or DoD prior to their merger aside from a few amicable exchanges. None of us wanted to test the others mettle, all three of our alliances had pretty similar stats and if we'd gone to war, it would have been world changing. Still, a lot of respect for those two original alliances.

War with KoM. we've all seen and read the verbals barbs that produced. Read the previous forum posts if you're curious. lol

New era. LoM is gone. DW is massive, as is ME. and we're still puttzing along with fewer than 50 players :-\
it's all good. the world is at least becoming active once more, let's see how the cards hit the table and who draws and who folds. i have my predictions, but i never reveal my hand until i know i have the winning cards.

good luck to everyone, best wishes to those who've left us.

TW
 
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