Actually karen. Many players that joined us from LOM speak extremely highly of you. So i have to assume that TW has valid points.
Although I would consider myself a gamer since my teenage years, I've never played a PC MMO, much preferring Xbox gaming for the social aspect. I heard about Grepolis at work from a dying man. I worked on a Nursing Unit specialising in end of life care, and had a good relationship with this man, we had good conversations and laughter and he was the one who pointed the game out on the TV. This man died on Boxing Day 2012 and I found myself looking up Grepolis to see what it was all about.
It seemed complex at the start trying to understand the gist of the game, the rules, how things worked etc. I felt quite chuffed with my little city worth 1800 points, then I saw Starfish Bear on the same island had one worth over 4K – wow, I need to catch up I thought. I received invitations from Faith Jokers and Night Watch, and not knowing what this really meant I joined Night Watch. Because I was active on the forum and helped others, I was given a leaders role along with some others. Angelic Upstart was the diplomat and our founders were generally never around. My base then was O56 and we had pacts with those all around, so we could grow.
Eventually Apathetic started eating our pact mates and for some reason Angelic Upstart decided to merge with the same pacts Apathetic were attacking. Although this didn't really make much sense to me; I thought it was the same as fattening Night Watch up for Christmas and a sure way to cheese Apathetic off. Our name changed along with the merges to Night Guardians, and I was shunted over to Night Guardians RA to help train and educate the smaller players. At this time we had quite a few players over in O35/36 and I was forever sending support out to Lord Arcano who was constantly harangued by AotG and Matsimus, and to Pereksle (still playing) who was also frequently under attack. In order to try to help these outlying players more efficiently I moved into O46 as a stepping stone.
Once it was clear that NGRA wasn't working, I was brought back into NG and given founders rights. I knew at this point that something was afoot as Angelic had gone very quiet on Skype and had seemingly dropped off the world. Angelic and one of the founders had arranged with Apathetic for themselves and a couple of our best players to join Apathetic. It was already clear that Apathetic wanted to consume NG as we were the only other alliance left in O56. I felt that Angelic had sold us all for slaughter :supermad:. I had around 15 cities at the time (I think) across O46/56 and felt that I personally would be their main target (as I gave 100% morale) and I felt that the smaller players would have more chance of continuing playing without me, so I contacted KOM and 13th with a view to joining one of them – they had both been in a pact with NG and Apa.
It was Val's message that made me join KOM, and the fact that an exNG friend had commented to me on the state of 13th forums and the reasons he'd quit 13th and the game. Val took me onboard, into leadership and I was met with a very warm and understanding welcome from all the guys in their Council. Once I'd joined KOM, one Apathetic player put around 11 or 12 of my cities in revolt. Apa claimed I was a refugee (even though they never attacked me before I joined KOM, I was just top of their Most Wanted list and had thwarted their plan by moving to an ally) and a whole argument started on the shared thread with Apa, KOM and 13th which made Apa look quite foolish as they tried to lie, bluff, make excuses, contradict themselves, etc. The guys from KOM and Graeme from 13th stood by me through all this and eventually everything was quiet for a while.
I think it was around this time that I moved into O35 with Pauke, Jem, exe and a couple of others I think. Unfortunately, my city didn't last long after TradeMarc had been pounding the gates and I never ventured into O35 since.
Without warning, Apa suddenly started to attack KOM one day when Val was in VM. We were pretty much caught on the back foot by it, but I feel it overall strengthened us and helped us to bond. Constant attacks from Apa ever since forced weaker players out and made the strong stronger. One thing in KOM was that we cared about our brethren, we helped each other, we were there when we needed each other, and we fought back to back against what sometimes seemed like insurmountable odds. Sure we lost cities, but despite being attacked from all sides by 3 bigger alliances we still managed to take some enemy cities in return. We'd got our own inactive problem more or less under control, we'd got standards being maintained and whilst we weren't winning, we weren't losing as much as 13th were.
We had a shared tab with 13th , which showed how much 13th were struggling against DW. Merge talks cropped up. My view was that 13th were crumbling fast with the Senate players too busy arguing whilst losing cities all around them, they didn't seem to know what each other was doing and seeing that Graeme had left them, poor Bobbob ended up the scapegoat for everything. They seemed like elders who would still be sat arguing when all that's left is the burning remnants of a village. I also felt that 13th used and abused KOM, they expected our support but were still friends with our enemies. We were treated as their meatshield in O46 to keep Apa off their backs. There were many instances of 13th players defending ME or AO against KOM :Angry:. Underhanded tactics were in play which I'll not go into, but the players who did it are still around but not in LOM.
During our time in LOM is the period that I actually thought that this sort of game isn't for me. There is too much lying, backstabbing friends, cheating and cavorting with the enemy. I'm from a sports background, so would expect sporting behaviour, but it didn't exist in LOM or this game. To have one leader say they shouldn't have to send support out to others shows how little they cared about other players, the alliance or whether there would be another red flag on the same island :Angry:. It became soul destroying seeing these so called leaders do nothing for anyone else, other than build their own cities, buried in their own support that they're not willing to share :supermad:. This is not leadership, it's not team work, it's not sporting, it's self-centred and selfish. All the pressure is transferred to those who are making the effort to succeed and we really don't need the parasites.
When exe0 left, I was gutted and felt like I'd lost a limb . Despite his forum antics here, he is the best player I've seen in Grepolis, his work behind the scenes was phenomenal, his dedication and strive to make the best for his alliance was unfaltering despite all the knock-backs. I understand that he couldn't continue, but I so much appreciated his unswerving loyalty and his caring nature (yes, caring – that isn't a typo, people didn't look hard enough to see this because they're too busy stuck up their own jaxeys thinking they're cool because they have a crown).
In KOM , Val nicknamed me The First Lady, and I will always be his first lady. He has shown courage in the face of all your (enemy) adversity, grit, shouldered any burdens on behalf of his alliance, kept in touch with forums and players, sent out attacks and support to help anyone who needed it. He has been a truly respected leader by all KOM, a respect which he earned due to his activity, personality, fairness, balance etc.
I considered my own position in this game, thought about leaving/ghosting/permanent VM etc. I also considered challenging Mr Starfish Bear to a 1 v 1 city duel so I could leave in style, . But, I've decided to stay loyal to all those guys from LOM who have shown loyalty and faith when others fled to the enemy and abandoned them.
So now, I'm with ME which is an alliance I've never had dealings with. No doubt Apa will continue their poundings to get me out of O46, and I notice that DW are probably going to move into O46 too
And the oscar goes to Pawn !!!!As time progressed the new danger alliance was NF and we started to have talks with TSO to end the war. This is when i got to know Exe0, he took over the alliance at this point. Him and I would talk often about what we could do together IWW and TSO. We decided to defend the cities of TSO, we figured we could make DBP to grow without being in direct danger.
As we defended we could not keep up with the non stop destruction of NF on TSO. While i promised Exe0 that we would stand together my other leaders saw the inability of TSO's destruction. I was over ruled by the other two leaders and we stated that we would not assist TSO anymore in defense. At this point we started speaking with NF to set a NAP, (we knew we could not survive long with their numbers if we went to war). This was a difficult point for me because i feel i betrayed Exe0.
I apologize for my message as well, we both got out of hand. I am glad you admit why KoM attacked you as I never would agree to sending a person into an alliance as a spy nor do I use them. I am not sure how much fight you wil get out of me or how long I am staying,,I am only here now for a few payers,,if I can convince them to leave with me into another world then ill be casper here lolIm going to do all I can now so it wont be as long as your stories, but this will be my first post on the external forums.
I started this game back on the Gamma Server in the early 2000s. It was en3 if i am correct. Anyways I was young and I didnt know anything about the game so I had my cousins guidance. When the world closed I took a break from the game for a while.
When 2012 was coming to an end I decided to start back up again. I was lucky enough to join the newly opened server Idalium. I was lost and I did not grow fast at all. I joined a small alliance named Sky Hawks who then later turned into S.W.A.T and then into Ravenclaw. Ravenclaw was a powerful alliance, they knew what they were doing, and they werent scared of a fight. I was falling behind and not keeping up with the alliance, so one morning I logged on to find out that I was kicked.
I was scared and I didnt know what to do so i tried leading my own alliance for awhile. I took members from S.W.A.T and made my own alliance. We were MRA and we could not possibly fight off the rest of the world because of how small we were. We were ripped apart by Idalium Federation, so we ran to ST6.
I arrived in ST6 with some of the other active members of my alliance to find that I had no voice or opinion in this alliance. Any thoughts i had were shot down by the council. The alliance did not operate well and had Pacts with everyone on the server. Thinking I was ready for blood, I left ST6 and found an alliance named KoM. I was still a coward at this time and I hid behind the lines of KoM as they fought NF, and DoD. I did not support them and I did not communicate in the forums, but for some reason they let me stay in the alliance.
One day, (being stupid), I messaged Vallenteno and told him I would get info from NF to help with the war. I left KoM and received an Invite into NF from a good friend of mine, ppakulski. I was attacked immediately, waves of attacks coming non stop. KoM had mercy on me and only took one city which I am thankful for otherwise I would not have survived this server.
I recovered in NF, where I stayed until they collapsed. PP helped me gain cities in o44 and I started helping in the war effort. I was told to focus on Mannowar along with my friends yeha18 and xzerus, while the rest of NF was getting ripped apart. We put an end to Mannowar and then shortly after NF crumbled. All of us got invites into the 13th as refugees, but one man stayed behind. Ppakulski. He hated the legion so much, he did not come over until every single active person in NF was gone. Here i remained a foot soldier and PP again found himself on the council.
In the 13th I did not help with support at all, as i did not fit in. I forced myself not to support our allies KoM, and I was silent for most of my time there. KoM ended up merging and forming LoM which I was again not happy of. One day ppakulski decided he was leaving the game, so I left the alliance. I lost a city to APA alone, but gained one in wolf territory. Pawn remembers this as I went back to LoM instead of sticking to my word and going to DW. They took their city without even trying, and I did not request support from my alliance. A few weeks later, the arguing started. Council members started attacking their own members, and Ana was the only one to say something. Her and Exe0 got in a argument on public forum so I decided to post as well. I posted the report of getting attacked by my leaders, only to get a negative response. I said very mean stuff to people i called friends, and finally I left.
DW took me in and sent support to all of my cities. LoM took 6 and left me hanging by a string. I took a beating but i recovered and started hitting LoM back. I was full of hate and did not stop until LoM collapsed. That is when I realized I was attacking mostly inactive players... Now I am here in DW and have already launched a few attacks in this new war.
This server has taught me a lot, and I am happy i have had the experience. I lied about a lot of things to get my way, and looking back on it I was pathetic. I would like to apologize to vallenteno, first of all for betraying you, not once but twice, and secondly for our harsh messages a few weeks ago. I do not expect you to except my apology as I do not deserve it. But I will say, I am looking forward to fighting you in the new war
If I missed anything please say so...
How many of these cities were taken from the date of you ending your relationship with NF and starting your relationship with DoD would be the number which matter m8. I can't remember dates but i'm pretty sure i'm correct, grepointel doesn't show if you took in actives (reds) DoD attacked anything in the way, IWW may have cleaned up the leftovers which again grepointel doesn't show. Which was the first gerpolis treat thing that IWW and DoD were in on together? ie easter, halloween, x mas, grep olympics (can't think what you call them so treat thing will do). We'd be able to see numbers better then but it still would not show what i mention above.Fella: I have to disagree with one point. The war with NF.
I was not sure but because i was curious, i checked when DOD and IWW merged. That was on 8/8/13.
From the first city taken by IWW from NF towards this date. IWW had taken 159 cities from NF. That was the count of cities. If IWW would just sit back and do nothing that number should be a lot lower.
The first city taken from NF was on 3/25/13 by a player named waxen from DOD. Now looking from this point until 8/8/13. They took 81 cities from NF.
But readers should know that DOD did take multiple cities from many other alliance they were fighting during these points. They had wars with other alliance that affected a focused war with NF. While IWW only had one enemy in there oceans, NF.
You can check all this info on grepolis stats. I don't think i made a mistake with numbers but you could confirm. I don't remember the exact date IWW started the war with NF so i used the first city taken from them as the starting point. So can't say 100 percent sure on the numbers. The first city taken by IWW from NF was on 5/4/13 by player isammu. During these 4 months the count was 159. Most of these cities taken where in ocean 42/43.