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DeletedUser35805

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Now now boys, play nicely ;)

I kind of have to side with snake here, you guys did attack a siege on a TSL city recently, that is not up for debate. I have no idea what the reasons for this were, and I don't care really as TSL is far away from me in my small corner of the world. Maybe one day I'll be big and strong like chris but I'll have to be content with my noob status for now :D

Bacon, did you mean 76 instead of 66? Last I checked, MOS was still the top alliance in 66.
PFK holds sway in 75/76. If you go by pure numbers, 80% of your numbers are in those 2 oceans.

On an unrelated note, MOS has lost control of this ocean to PFK recently, now who could have seen that coming....
 

DeletedUser1483

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Dammit Nipple, but i wanna grow up and be big and strong like YOU! :( Now we are never going to get anywhere in life.

As to the seige break, we are TSL allies.. and most of us are friends and have helped each other out on more than one occasion. TSL have never asked for our help for anything to do with OFTR, the only reason MOS happened to help with this was because an MOS member was the one that spotted their trip die in the city.

That led to them posting in our shared area to let TSL know and, it being in the support area, MOS then responded to it. It was only 3 members, maybe 4. (and it wasnt just MOS that responded, TSL would have had it under control themselves).

And yes Nipple, you are correct! MOS has lost top spot of the ocean by you taking 6+ cities in the past day or 2 from a member that was inactive for a short period of time. :p Im sure the lack of big active players from MOS in that ocean has nothing to do with the, i wont lie about it, walkover youve had in that ocean.

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DeletedUser

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It's more than Bend has done in months, and lets not forget the difference in rankings here - i'm attacking people a bit bigger than myself. Unlike most in Pella

Bend has much more abp than you, and bp. He's taken cities off alliances. You however have 15 cities with what 40kbp? Don't use the size excuse, I joined Xi right before it closed and I take on players bigger than me every day. I have 19 slots with 142k bp. Don't believe me? Ask any OoC member in Xi.
 

DeletedUser

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I have taken cities off alliances. Bend quit. You don't play here. so whatever either of you have to say doesn't have any weight behind it.

You've also never played against me. Or with me. You can go ahead and try.
 

DeletedUser

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Think about 10 of your latest conquests are from players with no cities.. As a matter of fact I do play here; as a 175 point player since the 24th of December.

Well, how does speed 3 revolt sound?
 

DeletedUser

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I don't play Revolt. Once was enough.

You should look at my conquests in Pella - My last one was from a player with 5 cities....that's more than no cities. i also colonised on an island full of alone time members, for teh lulz. And i took a city from an Alone Time member.

For someone who works full time, Is getting Married in 45 days, plays more than one world and also moderates and reads the latest WOT (Memory of light) I seem to be doing okay. About to lose my second city in Pella, but the book reading was worth it.
 

DeletedUser

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Sapphire you have lost 3 cities on this world. If you are about to lose another that would be 4. That is pretty easy math when you have so little cities over such a long period of time. Your 18k abp tells me you have not been attacking people since day one. OMG a player with 5 whole cities?? Funny thing is you only have one conquest of a player with an alliance. Yes very brave you are indeed, collin is a 1000x better player than you will ever be. How he lost a city to you is beyond me.

Again you can talk about how you outlast people, but big deal. Outlasting someone does not make you better by any means. As I said sure I left this server months ago. Yet somehow I still have more abp than your entire alliance. You now lead the #1 alliance on beta, big deal. You only lead the number one alliance because all of the good alliances have left, the best alliance ever to grace beta was Phenomenon led by Kad who was an amazing player. I would honestly be shocked if you have the same amount of abp as I did when I left by the time the server ends. Tyrone left the server months ago, but everyone still remembers him and recognizes he is a much better player than someone who hangs arounds, sims, make friends with everyone, and does nothing.
 

DeletedUser

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Pheno, good in Beta? sure. The best? No. There were far better alliances - not the Least Phoenix of Carthage.

Bend, your "real life problems" took you away from the game - or so you keep saying and not doing. So stop trolling the forums. It's not cool. You say playing longer is a weakness - i disagree. I happen to have done well for lasting longer, and sticking to things. I haven't given up - even with far more stressful things about. People like you have never put me off - rather you make me more stubborn. I play to prove you wrong.

My challenge was issued, i really have nothing more to say on the matter of "skills" you think you have. As i have stated before nothing you say has any weight until you manage to survive a one vs one with me. Which you'll probably quit, or not turn up to. All those excuses - i mean RL.
 

DeletedUser

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Reapers held their own on Corinth. Held our ocean and dominated. We will do the same on Pella. I got 10+ battle hardened Corinth players and a few rag tab players from Pella so we will prevail. Corinth wasn't easy either in the beginning but we dominate our ocean. Give us time, we will rise to the occasion.

Also, bend I figured you'd have more faith in us.
Romes sorry mate but you guys eventually collapsed on Corinth as well. My friend Jag on corinth basically took on your whole alliance by himself while he was in bone collectors. You had multiple members over 200k points at that time still attacking unescorted. I'm sorry that is awful, even the likes of Sapphire who barely attacks knows to send an ls escort with her attacks. I guess also it also matters what you mean by "prevail" if you mean never disband, sure maybe you will. Bone collectors never did that on corinth, everyone still knows they were garbage though.

You dominated your ocean on corinth btw until real threats entered the ocean, as soon as you guys were attacked by a real alliance you collapsed. I took a couple cities off you guys without any of your players even trying to break the siege. I don't think you guys ever took a single city off of a top 12 alliance, unless Yondisti did which almost doesn't count because he probably basically did it by himself. Nothing personal against you Romes as I like you, but these are just the cold hard facts mate. Not saying Reapers on Pella doesn't have a few decent players because you probably do. You would all be better off joining a real alliance though.
 

DeletedUser

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Pheno, good in Beta? sure. The best? No. There were far better alliances - not the Least Phoenix of Carthage.

Bend, your "real life problems" took you away from the game - or so you keep saying and not doing. So stop trolling the forums. It's not cool. You say playing longer is a weakness - i disagree. I happen to have done well for lasting longer, and sticking to things. I haven't given up - even with far more stressful things about. People like you have never put me off - rather you make me more stubborn. I play to prove you wrong.

My challenge was issued, i really have nothing more to say on the matter of "skills" you think you have. As i have stated before nothing you say has any weight until you manage to survive a one vs one with me. Which you'll probably quit, or not turn up to. All those excuses - i mean RL.
From all the beta players I have spoken to and forum reading of beta I have done during their prime they said Pheno was easily the best alliance on the server and Kad the best leader.

Really I keep saying and not doing? Please tell me what world am I playing Sapphire, go ahead I'll wait. I still like to look and see what is going on in my previous worlds even if I am not playing any longer. I did not say that your longevity is a weakness, I said outlasting people alone does not make you good. Outlasting people and being relevant/skilled yes that would make you good, by skilled I mean taking cities off of other alliances not ghost and unallied players like a certain someone.

I am not sure how you are proving me wrong, I said you are a simmer and have pitiful bp. Both of which are true. Get some decent bp for your amount of cities and you will of proved me wrong. I never said you wouldn't outlast me, I don't care about that as I know a few players who have reached a mill points and are still bad players. What do you mean by more stressful things about by the way? More stressful than my situation? As you couldn't possibly know my situation just as I don't know yours.

Survive a one vs one with you, yes I am sure that will be so tough with the way you sim. As far as my skills go, yes I have proven I have skills by being in the top 40 abp of every server I have played seriously on at some point or another.
 

DeletedUser1483

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Although my shocking knowledge of other worlds hinders any responses id make to the corinth, beta stuff.. I would raise one thing.

aBP, dBP do not necessarily pertain to the amount of skill that a person has. Im sure if sapp could put in the time and effort that some other players do then she would be able to show her level of skill.

Right now its an unknown, ive no doubt that if I fell out with sapp, and i had the slots (damn you 170CP per slot. :(), i could probably take all her cities within a week or so. That doesnt mean she wouldnt snipe a few of them and be able to halt me or slow me down.

If sapp chooses to play the game by simming a bit, chatting with friends, occasionally try and take a city from an active enemy, then whats to say that is the "wrong" way to play. If it was the wrong way to play then grepo wouldnt allow you to do it. Im not saying its a fun way to play, ;) but each to their own at the very least.

Sapp will probably be there at the end, watching with her 10 cities, as Pirates of Pella takes over the whole world and wins World Wonders all by themselves. I dont know if i can say that, Gaulius may have launched his Krakens against me and rimmed me by that point.

Just playing devil's advocate. Different perspective on the game and the way its played. I still think fighting offense is definitely the most fun way to play though. :p

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DeletedUser

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Dammit Nipple, but i wanna grow up and be big and strong like YOU! :( Now we are never going to get anywhere in life.

As to the seige break, we are TSL allies.. and most of us are friends and have helped each other out on more than one occasion. TSL have never asked for our help for anything to do with OFTR, the only reason MOS happened to help with this was because an MOS member was the one that spotted their trip die in the city.

That led to them posting in our shared area to let TSL know and, it being in the support area, MOS then responded to it. It was only 3 members, maybe 4. (and it wasnt just MOS that responded, TSL would have had it under control themselves).

And yes Nipple, you are correct! MOS has lost top spot of the ocean by you taking 6+ cities in the past day or 2 from a member that was inactive for a short period of time. :p Im sure the lack of big active players from MOS in that ocean has nothing to do with the, i wont lie about it, walkover youve had in that ocean.

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Losing citys is losing citys, you cant cover it up or make it look not so bad by saying it was an inactive player. How an alliance deals with its inactives says alot about that alliance. Besides, if your players had them all tripped then you guys would have broken the sieges, you do after all have a massive advantage with your numbers.

On the TSL to OFTR seige break you mentioned above. 3 or 4 members responding to a shared forum post and sending siege breaking attacks at OFTR is a War declaration in my books. Either that, or those 3-4 players are Rogue players and dont represent the alliances stances....so which is it?
 

DeletedUser

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And yes Nipple, you are correct! MOS has lost top spot of the ocean by you taking 6+ cities in the past day or 2 from a member that was inactive for a short period of time. :p Im sure the lack of big active players from MOS in that ocean has nothing to do with the, i wont lie about it, walkover youve had in that ocean;)

If this player is "so inactive" answer me 2 things.

1. how was the player able break my conquest?

2. this the biggest. WHY did the player have vm on then take it off see saying he knew he be so "inactive"?

Also do you not think you lost it and we gained it because you kicked spike for one JP on VM with andy the whole O66 ain't inactive you got some the biggest player around there.

zarras - 39 - 485929 - active
Moggy123 - 49 - 457318 - active - giving cities to reapers but they probably "friends" right?
Skull-cap - 7 - 670191 - active
noselint - 1 - 882626 - active
bacaraj - 15 - 604713 - active
SmarKee - 4 - 702030 - active

3 top 10 players

6 top 50 players in the world you trying to tell us that they CANNOT expand MOS in O66

MoS = More Over the top Stories

Let's not forget george going ghost but you did keep him in to keep #1 spot right
 
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DeletedUser

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Just saying, in Pella - only one of my city conquests has been a ghost. Not sure too many Pella players can beg to differ. My busy situation is quite clearly posted, if you'll just read posts instead of flaming them bend.
 

DeletedUser19042

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Hey sapphie. :)
Just wanted to say Hi.

Anyway...I don't think someone is in the position to be saying bad things about the play style of Sapphie and her alliance; I've played against her in Gythium for a while (not long) and she does great.
 

DeletedUser37459

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LOA resorted to taking ghosts and colonization instead of fighting us head on. We took back cities that LOA took and broke a lot of sieges. We even moved into LOA home turf and LOA still couldn't remove our cities. We broke because I gave the order to disband and join the big three. I had my reasons for it but my alliance was willing to fight till the end. The war with Reapers would've lasted another 6 months or more. Probably till WW. We did do well and I will admit I had a few members who could've used a grepo boot camp as their tactics sucked but the majority of the alliance held their own. I never lost a city during the whole war, infact I never lost a city on corinth period. Cities marked as lost on my stats are because I gave em away, never lost a city due to someone taking it from me.

I admit though that Pella has taken a turn for the worst and if Reapers just had a bit more time before the storm hit us we'd be better off but we are making due with what we got. As for Jaguar, he didn't take us on by himself, he had help from TVG which supported him but didn't want to actively get involved. So they stayed out and helped him only. Reason he was a problem. BC will always be on corinth because they recruit everyone from everywhere. IF BC took the time to find decent leaders and pick a freaking ocean to operate out of they could possible make a comeback. But, they'd need to side with TU as TS would never allow it.

But, once Pella is over and done with, Reapers will move to a fresh world and that is where we will see how we do. Reapers has always been in the middle or near the end so never any real time to prove ourselves and grow. But a fresh world is where we will show what we can do. But, that is still a year away or more.
 

DeletedUser1483

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If this player is "so inactive" answer me 2 things.

1. how was the player able break my conquest?

2. this the biggest. WHY did the player have vm on then take it off see saying he knew he be so "inactive"?

Also do you not think you lost it and we gained it because you kicked spike for one JP on VM with andy the whole O66 ain't inactive you got some the biggest player around there.

zarras - 39 - 485929 - active
Moggy123 - 49 - 457318 - active - giving cities to reapers but they probably "friends" right?
Skull-cap - 7 - 670191 - active
noselint - 1 - 882626 - active
bacaraj - 15 - 604713 - active
SmarKee - 4 - 702030 - active

3 top 10 players

6 top 50 players in the world you trying to tell us that they CANNOT expand MOS in O66

MoS = More Over the top Stories

Snake, list the amount of cities taken from zarras, moggy, skull-cap, noselint, bacaraj and smarkee in total by PfK, and then list of cities taken from ollie from just the last 3 days.

Ollie was yellow inactive, so inactive for at least 2 days, during that time he lost 11 cities. (Not including the 2 lost to GGW). Seeing as that equates to easily 100k points total, and you are beating the MOS points total in that ocean by 10,100 points right now.. I was merely saying that was the reason you have overtaken us recently.

You increased by 100k points in 3 days and we lost 100k points total and your pretending thats not the case. I am positive that Nipple will understand that it is would be near impossible for MOS to try and hold cities of an inactive when they are deep into the frontlines of an enemy without large active players around them..

Even with large active players around bacon you couldnt stop us taking a few of his cities recently.

I was never saying PfK cant take active players, as ive said numerous times that i think PfK is one of the "alliances to beat" on the server and one of the most organised. Dont get your panties in a twist and over read into what im saying. :p

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@DigDug.

We have already discussed the seige in-game, is there a purpose to discussing it in the externals?

You are more than welcome, as always, to send me a mail in-game if you wanted to talk about it.
 

DeletedUser

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Snake, list the amount of cities taken from zarras, moggy, skull-cap, noselint, bacaraj and smarkee in total by PfK, and then list of cities taken from ollie from just the last 3 days.

Am I saying that no I am saying that you have ample chance to grow in O66 so the "no good players" is bull

also ollie turned VM off no one else

we might have took 11 off him but remember him turned it off but also remember you's ain't so fair play yourselves look at what happened with bacon he was inactive you's jumped over him and he was inactive 5 days

So score

ollie - 11 with being inactive 2 days

bacon - 3 with being inactive for 5 days
 

DeletedUser1483

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Lol, youre funny to debate with.

Im not exactly blaming you or calling you unfair for taking ollie's cities. lmao. ITS ALL YOUR FAULT FOR MAKING HIM COME OUT OF VM PFK. WHYD YOU DO THAT. ¬¬

Going way back to your original point, and mine, (as you seem to have lost your way from the original argument you made), you are now number 1 in that ocean.. which was helped by taking these 11 cities.

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There are several ways to look at the "Score" snake:

PFK LS lost fighting a losing seige: Approx. 8000+ LS?
MOS LS lost fighting a losing seige: 0

(im not actually 100%, as the thread is gone. I welcome any correction to that figure. Chortle informs me that he guesses it was somewhere between 8000-10000 LS. As he ended the day with 78k dBP.)

or

PFK cities taken in a strategic ocean to them: 11
MOS cities lost in a strategic ocean to them: 0

I distinctly remember not seeing you send a single one of those LS btw snake. Guess your LS were busy.

In contrast, Nipple, AprFg, Philwaite and Brackas send a combined LS total of something equivalent to this:


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Can you please bring someone like nipple in here to fight your battles. At least hes fun to talk to. :)

and no doubt hes got an idea of what MOS is doing and is going on in the wide world of Pella, where you clearly dont.

This is getting seriously off-topic now though. I will do a top 12 tomorrow or top 9 like nipple. If i remember, and if im in any fit state to do it. Ive been ill for the past 3 days now.

:( *Everyone say awww*

No?.. *Awkward silence*
 
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DeletedUser

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This is why I like chris ^^. Respectable guy who knows what he is talking about. The players you mentioned such as Nipple, brackas, etc. All fantastic players. That was one thing that always amazed me while in PfK the amount of units we were willing to sacrifice for each other. When you have such small amount of members that team feeling of comrade is so important. I can safely say that most members of PfK will be willing to go down in flames for each other.
 
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