Another one bites the dust

The Kitten Fatalis

Phrourach
If I could offer a few takeaways as an amused lurker that played with/against a bunch of you in 173.

1) The ban convo seems valid. Both teams took them I believe, albeit one way more than the other apparently. Maybe the takeaway should be less arguing about it and more avoiding bringing in those that take them as they're actual liabilities that can jeopardize a world. I gotta imagine having 20ish in one go would be the actual 10th layer of hell. Clearly the game can be won without them too and I'm gonna guess most of the cities lost are a result of bans.

2) Organizing 100+ players is hell on earth and just not really possible in the current game. Its the 11th layer of hell. Its a great way to lose. It results in a whole different set of liabilities being all over the place in a lack of prep, lack of alarm use, losing cities, etc. I gotta imagine if the other team wasn't busy averaging a ban per week, you might not have had a realistic chance to win to begin with. Its not 2013 anymore, there aren't even 100 solid players on most worlds. Let alone in a team. That probably affected the results more than any potential surviving botters.

3) Its a game, not a dick, stop taking it so hard.
 
BadDecisions

BadDecisions

Phrourach
The bot conv isn't valid on the ww race now - it happened early on and it did Pixels more damage than anyone else - if anyone should be annoyed about it, it's pixels cos it very nearly ruined our server! Punishments were issues as per the rules - it doesn't need to keep coming back up every 5 mins! Besides the whole situation gave tubbies an advantage but failed to do anything about..

It's just being used as an excuse now.

Like I said, we have a really nice team who worked really hard, despite all the hurdles, everyone got their heads down and carried on and look to be getting a well deserved win! something even tubbies players are saying to us - just not in public lol
 
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icyorange

Hekatontarch
BadDecisions said:
The bot conv isn't valid on the ww race now - it happened early on and it did Pixels more damage than anyone else - if anyone should be annoyed about it, it's pixels cos it very nearly ruined our server! Punishments were issues as per the rules - it doesn't need to keep coming back up every 5 mins! Besides the whole situation gave tubbies an advantage but failed to do anything about..

It's just being used as an excuse now.

Like I said, we have a really nice team who worked really hard, despite all the hurdles, everyone got their heads down and carried on and look to be getting a well deserved win! something even tubbies players are saying to us - just not in public lol
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"It's just being used as an excuse now."

Hey! you stole my quote!
 

T1996

Hipparchus
BadDecisions said:
Tubbies didn't prepare properly for WWs and they seem to have had very little plans other than spam. Whatever you say, if they had prepared as they should and had some better strategies they would have been very likely to win especially given their city count advantage and their better core.

Pixels are winning because of their strategy and played a better end game. All this is just an excuse, a number of tubbies have told us their ww management just simply wasn't good enough.

Tubbies could have won this especially given the mess Pixels have been left in. But you seem to have spent more time here complaining or sending tickets than actually playing the game!

All the rest of this is deflection for the fact Tubbies just didn't turn up and do the job needed to be done.

I'm proud of Pixels and how the players left here stepped up despite all the setbacks and did what we needed to do! We also had excellent WWs leaders who really showed up for the team and got us on the
right path ❤️
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Bold of you to assume a dog like Marto and his braindead barkers can do anything lmao, just look at them, spending more time writing tickets than actually playing... dogs all over
 

Lilu1

Lochagos
Burnbrae said:
What ORizzle89 said: "You are trash without bots, the sole reason this game is now trash"

Hmmm Interesting you don't deny or denounce this Kosti. I'm not saying you personally use scrips by the way. Of that, I absolutely have no idea.

But if one uses a script to gain an unfair advantage, what is one actually winning? I really do not understand the mind of a cheat. Low self esteem perhaps? A deep rooted desire for external validation because their real world life is so miserable? Or maybe just a lack of personal skill / intellect to be able to play the game on an even level. Possibly all three?

Wouldn't you agree, cheating is for losers. Surely we can all agree on that? (except for the actual cheats themselves ;))

One thing is for sure, cheaters have ruined this once great game. The script users ultimately drive the masses of casual players away for good. Its a shame really, because there is a great community of honest players here, both friend & foe. Sadly that community is shrinking due to insecure bot users who have no respect for anything and very likely limited personal grooming habits (ok, I threw that last one in as a guess but most likely true... common knowledge that cheats have chronic BO)
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There are many people using scripts, in this case even in Tubbies , no doubt about it and those people got away with using bots for years .But rarely heard that people quit a world because some people are using a bot /script. Yes it's an issue, that people use scripts .

But this thread is critical of one team , when the other it's no better. Look at how many players have joined Tubbies and Strings ? At one stage they had almost 200 players, under their umbrella. Haven't seen any of them complaining, because some in their ally are using scripts . Matter of fact , they are happy to be with those botters, in this world and others.

In general people have quit worlds and playing Grepo because of spam ,which is the biggest issue that this game has. No one wants to be attacked relentlessly , day and night. Some players have used this tactic for years and got away with it and continue to spam , world after world, driving away those that would like to play, but don't have enough time to be in this game 24/7.

Secondly , worlds have become meaningless because of the mass alliances that are formed . The casual player has no chance , against the "veterans" amassing in 1 alliance with 2-3 sister alliances , unless they join one .And this has broken the game even more .

And no casual player can compete against players that use massive amounts of gold to build their armies in an instant and can send attack after attack.
 

Preghat

Peltast
Congratulations to the AA for winning this world.


I have been playing Grepolis since 2015. I have won some servers and lost others. I have seen many players cheat throughout my experience, but I must admit that I have never seen so many cheaters. That being said, I do not blame you, I know the game can be complicated, I understand the need some people feel to cheat in order to win.


What I find even more shocking is the blatant inactivity of the support team, their lack of intervention and failure to do anything to make the game more playable. It is truly a shame. For the first time, this game and the teams working on it have completely disgusted me by their inaction and incompetence. It is appalling.
 

Larry232

Peltast
Preghat said:
Congratulations to the AA for winning this world.


I have been playing Grepolis since 2015. I have won some servers and lost others. I have seen many players cheat throughout my experience, but I must admit that I have never seen so many cheaters. That being said, I do not blame you, I know the game can be complicated, I understand the need some people feel to cheat in order to win.


What I find even more shocking is the blatant inactivity of the support team, their lack of intervention and failure to do anything to make the game more playable. It is truly a shame. For the first time, this game and the teams working on it have completely disgusted me by their inaction and incompetence. It is appalling.
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If the support team were inactive, so many people from one alliance wouldn't have been banned.
 

The Kitten Fatalis

Phrourach
BadDecisions said:
The bot conv isn't valid on the ww race now - it happened early on and it did Pixels more damage than anyone else - if anyone should be annoyed about it, it's pixels cos it very nearly ruined our server! Punishments were issues as per the rules - it doesn't need to keep coming back up every 5 mins! Besides the whole situation gave tubbies an advantage but failed to do anything about..

It's just being used as an excuse now.

Like I said, we have a really nice team who worked really hard, despite all the hurdles, everyone got their heads down and carried on and look to be getting a well deserved win! something even tubbies players are saying to us - just not in public lol
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Think you misunderstood part of what I said. So let me clarify. Botting isn’t relevant in terms of WW because you all got hammered well before that. It’s valid in terms of the story of the world. You played from behind and pulled it off because botters put you behind. Take the non-bots and the leadership’s strategy and you probs cruise to victory.

Otherwise we’re saying the same thing. Pixels face adversity and won. Congrats. There’s lessons from both sides to draw and I got love for both. 1st and 2nd are hard fought and deserve it. Lmk if there’s ever a fusion. Could be tempted. :)
 
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T1996

Hipparchus
Preghat said:
Congratulations to the AA for winning this world.


I have been playing Grepolis since 2015. I have won some servers and lost others. I have seen many players cheat throughout my experience, but I must admit that I have never seen so many cheaters. That being said, I do not blame you, I know the game can be complicated, I understand the need some people feel to cheat in order to win.


What I find even more shocking is the blatant inactivity of the support team, their lack of intervention and failure to do anything to make the game more playable. It is truly a shame. For the first time, this game and the teams working on it have completely disgusted me by their inaction and incompetence. It is appalling.
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Then your own team should make you puke
 
BadDecisions

BadDecisions

Phrourach
Preghat said:
Congratulations to the AA for winning this world.


I have been playing Grepolis since 2015. I have won some servers and lost others. I have seen many players cheat throughout my experience, but I must admit that I have never seen so many cheaters. That being said, I do not blame you, I know the game can be complicated, I understand the need some people feel to cheat in order to win.


What I find even more shocking is the blatant inactivity of the support team, their lack of intervention and failure to do anything to make the game more playable. It is truly a shame. For the first time, this game and the teams working on it have completely disgusted me by their inaction and incompetence. It is appalling.
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haha! you are probably one of the worse players I've seen!! ever heard of an alarm? Is that someone else's fault too... idk where you think all these cheats are? what 5 maybe had bans early on.. it's not exactly breaking records! lol I'm sure those few (who only played for a couple of months) made up for the 200 players you initially had here and the significant advantage tubbies had in number of players, number of cities and a better core?? never mind the fact for most of this server you had significant more players who spend.

If you really did play since 2015.. you might want to look for another game..
 
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BadDecisions

BadDecisions

Phrourach
It is however a shame that the game doesn't look to the reasons why players seek out illegal scripts and try addressing the gameplay issues that we all face.

Even if you don't get spammed the idea that a game expects you to have to wake up a few times a night and it's considered acceptable and part of the game, is wild! It is widely known that having a good nights sleep, greatly increases your physical and mental health and yet this game has done nothing in years to try to look into this aspect - I wonder what someone from the health community would say about having weeks or months of interrupted sleep and the impact on you? how many of you have had to stop something in your life to respond to this game, a family meals, a night out, had to pull up whilst driving? is this really what a game is meant to be about? how many times have you been out and your alarm goes off in an embarrassing way! how many of your have had a partner seriously losing it about you being up at 4am or about you rushing off to answer alarm or that it is going off like crazy? I know of people who has had a relationship ended from this game.

The farming system review has been delayed again and who knows if this will actually resolve the issue that you are expected to sit for hours clicking every 5-10 minutes. I've not even seen any consultation or discussion on what this might even look like - is it going to be pay for and give another advantage for those p2w players.. perhaps before anything else is done with this game, these issues should be addressed. it's not the 'cheats' killing the game, but the expectations on players and little development to seek to change this.

Maybe you could all stop complaining about the symptoms of this game and actually complain about the causes and we might eventually see some positive changes for everyone!
 
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Preghat

Peltast
BadDecisions said:
It is however a shame that the game doesn't look to the reasons why players seek out illegal scripts and try addressing the gameplay issues that we all face.

Even if you don't get spammed the idea that a game expects you to have to wake up a few times a night and it's considered acceptable and part of the game, is wild! It is widely known that having a good nights sleep, greatly increases your physical and mental health and yet this game has done nothing in years to try to look into this aspect - I wonder what someone from the health community would say about having weeks or months of interrupted sleep and the impact on you? how many of you have had to stop something in your life to respond to this game, a family meals, a night out, had to pull up whilst driving? is this really what a game is meant to be about? how many times have you been out and your alarm goes off in an embarrassing way! how many of your have had a partner seriously losing it about you being up at 4am or about you rushing off to answer alarm or that it is going off like crazy? I know of people who has had a relationship ended from this game.

The farming system review has been delayed again and who knows if this will actually resolve the issue that you are expected to sit for hours clicking every 5-10 minutes. I've not even seen any consultation or discussion on what this might even look like - is it going to be pay for and give another advantage for those p2w players.. perhaps before anything else is done with this game, these issues should be addressed. it's not the 'cheats' killing the game, but the expectations on players and little development to seek to change this.

Maybe you could all stop complaining about the symptoms of this game and actually complain about the causes and we might eventually see some positive changes for everyone!
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There is already a night-time protection system on the French servers, so I don’t understand why they don’t implement it here.
 

ORizzle89

Hipparchus
BadDecisions said:
haha! you are probably one of the worse players I've seen!! ever heard of an alarm? Is that someone else's fault too... idk where you think all these cheats are? what 5 maybe had bans early on.. it's not exactly breaking records! lol I'm sure those few (who only played for a couple of months) made up for the 200 players you initially had here and the significant advantage tubbies had in number of players, number of cities and a better core?? never mind the fact for most of this server you had significant more players who spend.

If you really did play since 2015.. you might want to look for another game..
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5... lol 5 x 3 is closer.. servers done.. cant believe people are still arguing.. seriously the server and the game is dead.
 
BadDecisions

BadDecisions

Phrourach
ORizzle89 said:
5... lol 5 x 3 is closer.. servers done.. cant believe people are still arguing.. seriously the server and the game is dead.
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nope it's about 5 and they left early server lol it's not factual if you made it up lol

ironically given the number of TT ww holders who are hard off for hours yet magically appear when their ww city is hit.. lol maybe more going off over there than we know about ;)
 

ORizzle89

Hipparchus
Every ww city is tripped obviously lol and nope its at least 15.. we had a list ill try find it

makes no difference now tho, and most of the server is hard off now.. alarms still on tho.
 
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