Attackers of Pag

IanY

Phrourach
Hold on, so when we said that we were fighting you guys defensively, all you called us were turtles and simmers? I think it was notmad who said that fighting meant attacking and defending. But i guess that when its you guys defending, that means you are fighters not simmers haha

By notmads definition, most of your alliance do no fighting.

I find it funny that you had to wait months for an opportunity for some traitors to give you cities, then brag about taking cities with the traitor swaps when all you do is mainly target inactives.

I also find it hilarious how your noobish members keep trying to favor farm the colony like i might eventually choose a god hahaha
Hold on, there is a difference between fighting defensively and being on the defensive all the time


A great man once said, having inactives aren't your enemies' problem but yours.
Here is an advice for you Deus,

"Maybe recruit someone that actually stay active and knows what they are doing, in the future?"



*Last time I checked, drarg and kuthjulian are your members, no?

Btw, don't you know that you have a habit of putting DLUs in your 650pts colony? Oh and with 4k birs inside I doubt anyone would like to sail some ships to it
 
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Notmad

Phrourach
I still enforce my statement, fighting is both attacking and defending. That means that a lot of your alliance also sims. And like Ian said there is a difference between only defending and being OPd defending.

tacos later is no2, in a MGGA ocean, he is not inactive. It should have been harder for Ian to take his city. Otherwise it was mostly inactives, but still cities.

Keeping you in revolt, as you have a 10k bireme stack then we won't send ships, flyers are how we keep you in revolt
 

DeusVult

Chiliarch
I still enforce my statement, fighting is both attacking and defending. That means that a lot of your alliance also sims. And like Ian said there is a difference between only defending and being OPd defending.

tacos later is no2, in a MGGA ocean, he is not inactive. It should have been harder for Ian to take his city. Otherwise it was mostly inactives, but still cities.

Keeping you in revolt, as you have a 10k bireme stack then we won't send ships, flyers are how we keep you in revolt
Well by all means keep my colony in revolt, im so sad.

Remember when you asked to pay me one of your city's so i could take your colonies?

Yea that still gives me a chuckle.

Also- most of your alliance does no attacking. So as we can see they are simmers by your own admission.

noobs simmers.JPG
 

Kal Gordon

Phrourach
@DeusVult.

You're going to criticise us whatever we do. You criticise us for not attacking as much. But I am sure if we were casually attacking your team's frontline cities and losing BP ratios (due to the fact that almost every frontline city has some amount of LTS), you would call us out on that as well for "feeding you BP". Whatever any enemy of MGGA does, you find a way to criticise it, even if you are doing the exact same things yourself, and making excuses for yourself.

Why don't you stop being so two-faced and admit you can be in the wrong sometimes? Or is honesty a little too much to ask from you? :)
 

IanY

Phrourach
Only one playing dodgeball is you, noobs are simmers no doubt about it.
Hold on, there is a difference between fighting defensively and being on the defensive all the time


A great man once said, having inactives aren't your enemies' problem but yours.
Here is an advice for you Deus,

"Maybe recruit someone that actually stay active and knows what they are doing, in the future?"



*Last time I checked, drarg and kuthjulian are your members, no?

Btw, don't you know that you have a habit of putting DLUs in your 650pts colony? Oh and with 4k birs inside I doubt anyone would like to sail some ships to it
Then reply this. ^

Before you call us simmers, look at your 120 members, and you are calling us simmers when you take, how many cities from us??? (Excluding the ones scattered in O45)
 

DeusVult

Chiliarch
Then reply this. ^

Before you call us simmers, look at your 120 members, and you are calling us simmers when you take, how many cities from us??? (Excluding the ones scattered in O45)
The majority of your alliance are simmers, anyone looking at grepointel can see that.

You called out MGGA for not attacking, and highlighted dungeon for getting a lot of BP.

So i post your roster, highlighting every name that is a clear simmer, and all i hear are excuses hahaha

You would not be taking many cities at all without the help of the 2 traitors.

I think we shaved off 700k+ points of cities from sohni and olympic? So yes i think we took quite a nice amount of cities from you noobs.
 

DeusVult

Chiliarch
@DeusVult.

You're going to criticise us whatever we do. You criticise us for not attacking as much. But I am sure if we were casually attacking your team's frontline cities and losing BP ratios (due to the fact that almost every frontline city has some amount of LTS), you would call us out on that as well for "feeding you BP". Whatever any enemy of MGGA does, you find a way to criticise it, even if you are doing the exact same things yourself, and making excuses for yourself.

Why don't you stop being so two-faced and admit you can be in the wrong sometimes? Or is honesty a little too much to ask from you? :)
Making excuses for ourselves? It is noobs who make an excuse for everything.

Ian called out MGGA for not getting a lot of ABP past week. So i pull Noobs roster and highlight almost 90% of the alliance as having minimal ABP the past week or so.

All i hear are excuses on why that is. Quite funny really.

I am sure you will write an essay in response to this as usual, kal the talker, all bark no bite, similar to a chihuahua. Maybe if i am bored i will come on here and respond
 

Kal Gordon

Phrourach
Making excuses for ourselves? It is noobs who make an excuse for everything
Hmmmm. Anyone remember the excuses about:
- How it's alright to cannibalise troops during WWs?
- How your tactic of hiding from us and not attacking, despite promised OPs, was actually an intentional strategy of "starving us of BP"?
- Recruiting anyone from Synergy who could accept an invite, no matter the skill level?
- How Turtle for Hire isn't working with you, they just help some friends in MGGA?

Ian called out MGGA for not getting a lot of ABP past week. So i pull Noobs roster and highlight almost 90% of the alliance as having minimal ABP the past week or so.
Actually, what Ian called out was the fact that a few specific MGGA players were getting large amounts of ABP without attacking the enemy teams that they are near. Only two explanations:
- You have a civil war you aren't telling us about. (Unlikely, as funny as it would be.)
- They are cannibalising. :p

I am sure you will write an essay in response to this as usual, kal the talker, all bark no bite, similar to a chihuahua. Maybe if i am bored i will come on here and respond
How many of your own players have no bite then? I'm sure I see quite a few MGGA players below me in the BP rankings. ;)
 

Notmad

Phrourach
Hmmmm. Anyone remember the excuses about:
- How it's alright to cannibalise troops during WWs?
- How your tactic of hiding from us and not attacking, despite promised OPs, was actually an intentional strategy of "starving us of BP"?
- Recruiting anyone from Synergy who could accept an invite, no matter the skill level?
- How Turtle for Hire isn't working with you, they just help some friends in MGGA?


Actually, what Ian called out was the fact that a few specific MGGA players were getting large amounts of ABP without attacking the enemy teams that they are near. Only two explanations:
- You have a civil war you aren't telling us about. (Unlikely, as funny as it would be.)
- They are cannibalising. :p


How many of your own players have no bite then? I'm sure I see quite a few MGGA players below me in the BP rankings. ;)
 

DeusVult

Chiliarch
Hmmmm. Anyone remember the excuses about:
- How it's alright to cannibalise troops during WWs?
- How your tactic of hiding from us and not attacking, despite promised OPs, was actually an intentional strategy of "starving us of BP"?
- Recruiting anyone from Synergy who could accept an invite, no matter the skill level?
- How Turtle for Hire isn't working with you, they just help some friends in MGGA?


Actually, what Ian called out was the fact that a few specific MGGA players were getting large amounts of ABP without attacking the enemy teams that they are near. Only two explanations:
- You have a civil war you aren't telling us about. (Unlikely, as funny as it would be.)
- They are cannibalising. :p


How many of your own players have no bite then? I'm sure I see quite a few MGGA players below me in the BP rankings. ;)
-When did i ever say it was ok to cannibalize bp? Funny that noobs claim others cannibalize when we know your top player is a bp cannibal, and that notmad has cannibalized bp in the past

-How is that an excuse? Simply a fact

-We merged, that is what a merger is, you invite the other team.

-We never denied we were working with them, we have denied them being a 5th branch. They are their own alliance.

And lastly, i am not talking about other MGGA players, i am talking about you. You talk a big game, for someone so irrelevant.
 

Notmad

Phrourach
We showed you that DP was canibalizing but you said something along the lines of as it is WW there is not much action and players must be able to grow so canibalising is acceptable.

You just told us we aim because most of our players don't attack, we'll they don't attck so they can starve you from BP.

A merge should be agreed upon by the council/leadership, we never received any messages concerning a merge, you justinvited people.

But they work with you closely...

Whenever someone has a good argument you call them irrelevant, that's probably why you keep saying you are relevant.
 

Kal Gordon

Phrourach
-When did i ever say it was ok to cannibalize bp? Funny that noobs claim others cannibalize when we know your top player is a bp cannibal, and that notmad has cannibalized bp in the past
You made excuses as to why it was happening. As for Hainamiis, you have seen it happen exactly once, at a time when we were told to respecialise. I have never seen you criticise your best friends Turtle for Hire for cannibalising, despite the fact we have proven that Erik has been done it on a much greater scale, and on multiple occasions. As for Notmad, that was before he was in Noobs, and while he was in another MRA. Again, you are trying to avoid admitting that some of your players are obviously doing it.

-How is that an excuse? Simply a fact
You promised you would OP us, back when TF fell. You failed to do so, and then when you were called out on it, you came up with an excuse as to why you hadn't done it. So it's either excuses, or you were lying to begin with.

-We merged, that is what a merger is, you invite the other team.
Synergy no longer existed as an alliance by that point, so it was not a merge.

-We never denied we were working with them, we have denied them being a 5th branch. They are their own alliance.
You denied that you two were actively working together. Yet we've seen MGGA sending considerable support to Turtle's cities in the past, and a co-ordinated assault on our WW island now.

And lastly, i am not talking about other MGGA players, i am talking about you. You talk a big game, for someone so irrelevant.
You criticise my fighting, using that as an excuse for me supposedly being irrelevant. If I am irrelevant, then a bunch of your players are too. Also, if you think my stats are that bad, perhaps you should check the DBP rankings. ;)
 

DeusVult

Chiliarch
We showed you that DP was canibalizing but you said something along the lines of as it is WW there is not much action and players must be able to grow so canibalising is acceptable.

You just told us we aim because most of our players don't attack, we'll they don't attck so they can starve you from BP.

A merge should be agreed upon by the council/leadership, we never received any messages concerning a merge, you justinvited people.

But they work with you closely...

Whenever someone has a good argument you call them irrelevant, that's probably why you keep saying you are relevant.
What? When did i ever say that. Please quote where i said it was ok to cannibalize BP. I think you are delusional. DP has been attacking since he got back from vm, ive seen the reports. You are a typical scum player, you have to try and put down those who are far better than you at the game, to make yourself feel better.

Notmad you were not synergy the moment you overthrew your leadership, and kicked out over half your team. By then you were only a traitor.
 

Notmad

Phrourach
Words? Do you not realize this is WW era? Not a get more ABP era?
You seemed to ignore the fact that he was canibalizing, saying that it was WW era

DP was a bit below my level in terms of BP before he joined MGGA, now he is no2. I find it hard to believe that he suddenly became an amazing fighter as good as Achileus. I have nothing against the guy but if you look at his overview you see that there are many days with +150k ABP followed by a couple of days of low BP gain then again and the pattern continues. Looking at his conquests they are loads of internals.
he is positioned close to us (yet he doesnt attack us), close to Sandels (but I doubt he gets that much BP from Sandels as they are turtles) and apart from that in MGGA only territory.

You see that's the thing, I never decided what happned, I was just there. Smelly Armpit was the one who organized the merge, chose who to keep and kick and so on. You can ask Peter Muss, anyone from TF council, Marcotti and more players who unfortunately left by now.
I still dont see how the blame can be put on me.