Top 12 Baris - Top 12 Alliances

DeletedUser32448

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Well, you've got 4 main alliances to join it seems.

1 -Spartan Brotherhood-

63 members, but only 11 members in 36.
ABP: 2064 (Rank 32nd overall)
Spread out, with very low ABP.

2 United City-States
125 members, 13 of which are in 36.
ABP: 7136 (12th overall)
MRA, very spread out, but higher ABP.

3 Inglorious Bastards
21 members, 20 of which are in 36.
ABP: 163 (88th overall)
Almost all in 36, which is good, but horrible attackers.

4 highlanders
8 members, 7 in 36.
ABP: 24 (156th overall)
Small, horrible attackers


They all seem pretty bad, you can choose. I personally would restart in another area, or join a larger concentrated alliance and restart in the middle of them.

UCS are not a mra we all came over from lamia world, UCSII are ones who came from another world, over-all very experienced group of guys. however we do accept players to ask to join who show they meet the criteria i.e very active and friendly people :)
 

DeletedUser29806

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Sorry Wigga, but when your alliance is spread out from ocean 66 to 33, and you have players in 11 different oceans, that is an MRA.
 

DeletedUser29806

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Still, what are you going to do when that one guys in 76 cries out for help?

"Oh, my support will be there in 50 hours!"
 

DeletedUser

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Well, you've got 4 main alliances to join it seems.

1 -Spartan Brotherhood-
63 members, but only 11 members in 36.
ABP: 2064 (Rank 32nd overall)
Spread out, with very low ABP.

2 United City-States
125 members, 13 of which are in 36.
ABP: 7136 (12th overall)
MRA, very spread out, but higher ABP.

3 Inglorious Bastards
21 members, 20 of which are in 36.
ABP: 163 (88th overall)
Almost all in 36, which is good, but horrible attackers.

4 highlanders
8 members, 7 in 36.
ABP: 24 (156th overall)
Small, horrible attackers

If I were you, I would go with the Inglorious Bastards because most of their membership is in your ocean and I think their attack rates are so low because that area is still so young.
 

DeletedUser

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To get back to the top 12 alliances, I would like to put in the actual top 12 based on total points and then a top 12 formed a different way.
Top 12 based on points:
1 Hells Angels
2 Cerberus
3 Insidious
4 Gods of War
5 United City-States
6 HU-BORG
7 Spartans of Darkness
8 Quarantine
9 Enigma
10 Sirotci
11 THE EXPENDABLES
12 Hell Angels Academy

Most of these alliances are Mass Recruiting Alliances (MRAs) and this list rewards that behavior, and although I am in an MRA (although the founder likes to say it isn't) I like to look at points/player along with BP/player. Adding those together, the new list looks like this:
1 Insidious
2 Seal Team 4
3 Varvaroi
4 Sirotci
5 Hells Angels
6 Cerberus
7 Eternal Knights
8 The Hellenic Saints
9 Gods of War
10 Black Serpent Outlaws
11 Spartans of Darkness
12 Grimm Sleepers

This list still has some MRAs (Hells Angels, Cerberus, Gods of War, and maybe Spartans of Darkness) but this may provide some insight as to who the best alliances really are. I think most Baris players would agree that Insidious has shown itself to be the best alliance in this world so far, but I know I'll be paying attention to Seal Team 4, Varvaroi, Sirotci, Eternal Knights, The Hellenic Saints, Black Serpent Outlaws, and Grimm Sleepers.

That being said, a little constructive criticism of some of these "elite" alliances.
What's with the Sirotci members out in oceans 35 and 46? How can you support them well?
Eternal Knights is very spread out which doesn't normally allow the members to support each other well, but at least there isn't any one out on their own. Black Serpent Outlaws has some outliers in Ocean 56 as well. Just some thoughts.
 
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DeletedUser3569

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Top Alliances

To get back to the top 12 alliances, I would like to put in the actual top 12 based on total points and then a top 12 formed a different way.
Top 12 based on points:
1 Hells Angels
2 Cerberus
3 Insidious
4 Gods of War
5 United City-States
6 HU-BORG
7 Spartans of Darkness
8 Quarantine
9 Enigma
10 Sirotci
11 THE EXPENDABLES
12 Hell Angels Academy

Most of these alliances are Mass Recruiting Alliances (MRAs) and this list rewards that behavior, and although I am in an MRA (although the founder likes to say it isn't) I like to look at points/player along with BP/player. Adding those together, the new list looks like this:
1 Insidious
2 Seal Team 4
3 Varvaroi
4 Sirotci
5 Hells Angels
6 Cerberus
7 Eternal Knights
8 The Hellenic Saints
9 Gods of War
10 Black Serpent Outlaws
11 Spartans of Darkness
12 Grimm Sleepers

This list still has some MRAs (Hells Angels, Cerberus, Gods of War, and maybe Spartans of Darkness) but this may provide some insight as to who the best alliances really are. I think most Baris players would agree that Insidious has shown itself to be the best alliance in this world so far, but I know I'll be paying attention to Seal Team 4, Varvaroi, Sirotci, Eternal Knights, The Hellenic Saints, Black Serpent Outlaws, and Grimm Sleepers.

That being said, a little constructive criticism of some of these "elite" alliances.
What's with the Sirotci members out in oceans 35 and 46? How can you support them well?
Eternal Knights is very spread out which doesn't normally allow the members to support each other well, but at least there isn't any one out on their own. Black Serpent Outlaws has some outliers in Ocean 56 as well. Just some thoughts.

I think you give Insidiuous too much credit. Sure they have some high ranking members, but they seem to be losing their base members daily, although they are being replaced with new ones. (Great message on Samuel Draco's alliance page displaying this)
I would put Spartans of Darkness farther up on the list, due to them being at war with Hells Angels, who has double the player count they have (academy included).

Maybe its because you are in a different ocean, but I have never heard of "Hellenic Saints"
From the start of the server "Grimm Sleepers" and "Eternal Knights" have tanked and are only now existant because they havent been conquered. (Eternal Knights used to be top 3 I believe) and (Grimm Sleepers top of ocean 44.

But that being said I give a shout out to the alliances that started out strong
Hu-Borg-(Hungarian players have to love them)(Been less active)
Titans of Baris-With DaFlave and other wonderful players from other worlds but got tired of this world/uninterested/got conquered

and to make notice of all the true mass recruiting alliance's out their
Hells Angels
+
Hells Angels Academy

Cerberus
+
(Academy not doing well)

United City States
+
United City States II

+
Enigma

and

The Luminescent Legion
 

DeletedUser

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Just to clear some: Im from Black Serpent Outlaws - And to be honest. In the beginning where I pretty disapointed about the leadership and the way this alliance was running. But during the last couple of weeks did we sure grow. Alot of thoose inactive point whores without troops are beeing kicked out and it seem that we now are starting to have a active core of players which seems to have the time end energy to play this game. My prediction is that you in the future will see Hells Angels go down the rank. They have for sure alot of inactive members and are still mass recruiting players. By Merging with New World Order did they only get a lot of sim players and seems from my chair to have a dissaponting little gain from it.


But lets see in the next 2 weeks where most of us are ready to take over cities around
 

DeletedUser29806

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Hehehe, ST4 just made their first attempt at our founder's cities, in 12 hours we got so many troops in there, when they finally got a spy report (After 5 failed attempts), they ran with their tails between their legs. And apparently I'm the new number 1 target for them, (I was told by big bad Street Bob lol), this should be fun, especially since I have 0 DBP's at this point.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Bump. I know its early, but anyone care to do an update? Need to get some chatter here.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Well I think by the time the next update is done, Insidious won't be the force everyone thought they are. Apparently they are falling apart internally. A lot of big players have left, with more to follow according to the rumors??
 

DeletedUser

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Whats going on here guys ?? anything exciting ?

As Eddie McK says above - Insidious had internal arguments which resulted in their best players, who were effectively running the alliance, quitting. Ego vs Experience and Ego has retained control over the alliance. I cannot see them surviving the full course in their current form.
 

DeletedUser

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Any chance of an updated opinion on this?

A lot has changed since the first post.
 
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DeletedUser32498

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What's up Twitmagnet? Anyway based on my experience when you try to make 'perfect' alliances they always crumble most of the time. When Insidious collapsed I was on Hells Angels. Apparently it started when Sinthetic left. Sinthetic went over and created his own alliance 'Unity' consisting of himself which has almost 100,000 points. It's impressive for just one person. Some of the other tops players of Insidious went over to Seal Team 4. Seal Team 4 recently collapsed because they are too arrogant, and arrogance does not lead to victories. Always fight with honor and respect. They tried to rule ocean 54. A bunch of premium players in one alliance is never good. They always feud and the end result are alliances collapsing.

Right now Insidious is ranked 41 with 14 members with an average of almost 6000 points. A dramatic change.
Seal Team 4 used to be in the top 5 alliances before they collapsed. They had the highest point average. Right before ST4 collapsed they were fighting Sirotci, Brothers of War, Cerberus, and the list goes on. They were biting too much off than they could chew.

As I see right now, I have high hopes in the following alliances:
-Sim City (high average and players that do not goof around. believe me. they don't just build cities like the sims but they fight agressively, and Cerberus is currently fighting as their number 1 enemy)
-Cerberus (a very good alliance that came from Mu. very well run, and a candidate to finish first if there is no action taken to stop them. consists of very agressive players. The only complaints about them is that they haven't created very good strongholds. most of their members are spread out around various ocean with ocean 55 being their prominant ocean.)
-Sirotci (very well run with almost 50 members. strongholds are the best developed I've seen so far. They are an alliance to believe in, and recruitment is closed so I see them as being very serious.)
-Varvaroi (small group consisting of around 15 members. they know what they are doing but I see them merging into another alliance sometime in the near future)
-Spartans of Darkness (very good alliance in the Southern oceans, and have been fighting Hells
angels)
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DeletedUser

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that's the update :

Rank Name Points Players Average points
1 Spartans of Darkness 2978443 123 24215
2 Cerberus 2891555 89 32489
3 Hells Angels 2297062 123 18675
4 Brothers of War 1778783 108 16470
5 The Round Table 1750320 114 15354
6 Sirotci 1473390 48 30696
7 HU-BORG 1359719 78 17432
8 Sim City 1334996 30 44500
9 Alpha Centauri 1259100 109 11551
10 -Spartan Brotherhood-1176862 68 17307
11 Wolf Pack 1120913 101 11098
12 The Olympians 1008110 98 10287

and Alliance Fighters:

Rank Name Points
1 Hells Angels 773130
2 Cerberus 634736
3 Spartans of Darkness 612357
4 Brothers of War 490589
5 Insidious 463828
6 Sirotci 440378
7 Sim City 424685
8 Alpha Centauri 389263
9 United City-States 348532
10 The Round Table 340363
11 HU-BORG 295541
12 Doomsday 186438
 
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DeletedUser

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actually we just butt pounded Hells Angels. Their precious "elite" players tried to get away by leaving the alliance for Babylon, so we killed them too for fun :)
 

DeletedUser

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1 Spartans of Darkness 4238194 123 34457
2 Cerberus 3454503 76 45454
3 Brothers of War 2532789 124 20426
4 The Round Table 2299825 122 18851
5 Sirotci 1823600 48 37992
6 Sim City 1696570 31 54728
7 HU-BORG 1552756 76 20431
8 Wolf Pack 1415965 103 13747
9 -Spartan Brotherhood- 1407185 63 22336
10 Doomsday 1217759

Attackers
1 Spartans of Darkness 626428
2 Cerberus 565504
3 Hells Angels 386252
4 Sirotci 368965
5 Brothers of War 292430
6 The Round Table 288397
7 Sim City 287085
8 Insidious 217968
9 HU-BORG 212573
10 Alpha Centauri 175852
 
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