some good thoughts here. I do like the idea of encouraging fighting. I've always wished that the only way you could get CP's was through VP. THAT would encourage fighting! As I think about this more, I think towards the end of the world it will not be such a big factor, but for the traditional player (little to no gold users), this change will have a bigger impact on getting started (the first 10 to 15 cities). I think it is causing many of them to be wiped out if they are not in a strong alliance; whereas before they could hang around and have fun a lot easier.