Well just to fill in sum of those questions and commens I seen,
1. EOTD pacted with HoneyBadgers for 48 hrs 2 resolve things, and found out the pat they were going to make permanent were based on lies. Such as the person theyy wanna kill ^^(daniejam) not to mention any namees or anything. Honeybadgers claimed he was not in their alliance, and when EOTD found out otherwise, UNPACTED AND ASKED HARBS DO THE SAME, at which point they did not. Harbs stayed pacted. And to get down to the real nitty gritty, dysen was mad because cities he gave phil to get closer to him were being given to sunwolf, a honeybadeger that wants to kill dysen. And giving them a free step closer to him. He asked phil break the pact, but from what i understand, phil said that he didnt want to go that way. Whichis an alliances choice. That is where the whole grey area is. Plus I heard that Harbs are demanding dy release nick(nwinder) if he decides to stay, and let him rim him with no interference, or they could not stay pacted with now LOA.
I hope this clears a little bit up on LOAs behalf and their decision making....They would love for you guys to unpact the honeys and take their path.....Jus because they changed their name and picked up a pact, does not ruin their long term loyalty and friendship with the harbs, unless all this crap conts...But thats another hing, they wont TELL you who you can and cant pact with, they just wanted the alliance in good hands if nick and dy left as they originally proposed, but realized they may not be what they want to do for sure. They had all intent to keep loyalty to harbs and help fight the honeys if not TBH depending on how diplo matters went.