yes xi Order of chaod 67 members vs s.h.e.i.l.d And TNK 100 members + there 2 sisters allinces so 300 members verser 67 members they had 5 compleated WW OOC took 4 from them and when the world finished had 5 WW compleated to Sheild and tnk's 2
also lota the death crusaders had 6 compleated Ww but phenomenom came back and took 5 from them and won the world with 4 compleated.
and in that case the death crusaders had 1 sister alliance and 4 pacts helping them
whilst phenomenom fought the dirty dozen and tdc and co
so there you go i aint jus a pretty face
although OOc have still never been announced winner's
and clive the only actual true member of the OOC we started and founded is riggamortice.
WW we left as they felt to easy come on within 6 months OOc had full control of all oceans near by no challange at all