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and nick i did say i was stepping back and letting you take the lead but that didnt mean i said go ahead and betray doa because the harbs tend to think that everything they do is ok and if we do something remotely close we are traitors...hmmmmm, some people need to step outside the box and say WOW, if we are calling them traitors, then we must be traitors ourselves
What you have presented here is an illogical statement. If I was taking lead and it was my choice - you failed to state that it had to be your way, so it wasn't really my choice.
Dysen, have you ever bought a new car? It is simple - when you buy something you negotiate. when you agree to a pact, you negotiate. That is how it goes.
Since you won't talk to me, I will put out here for everyone to read.
I was negotiating with DoA. I had broken no pacts.
To prove it, I will tell you the tactics I was using:
First, I used the better off technique. Look at my message, I said EotD would be better off with Harbs and Honey Badgers than with DoA. This was combined with the cards on the table technique - I stating a case clearly. Of which I did.
Second, I used the biased choice technique. All of my choices presented to DoA already included my bias. So they would have to think about it, and figure out how to remove my bias for the choices.
Third I used the two techniques at the same time - "Break it off and Bluff" - EotD will walk away unless negotiations continue in our favor. It is called a Bluff to get leverage. Without leverage you don't get the best deal.
Fourth, I used the "widows and orphans" technique - showing the results of these wars on our players - to draw into a sympathy point of view, from the other party.
Fifth - I used the new issue - presented Tribulus kicking our diplomat because he lost a city. Why use a new issue, to take diversion away from the real issue - so I could what?!
Use the sixth technique FAKING! I faked that was the issue I was upset about, so I could concede the new issue for a favorable stance in the real issue. I presented a biased argument and DoA took the bait. Instead of arguing with me about the real topic, we were arguing about something else. Something that I would concede to them, so they would feel obligated to concede something to me.
My next moves were going to be lawyer, deadlines, and shotgun. I already started divide and conquer and incremental conversion.
Until you ruined negotiations Dysen - of which you did - I was in the process of getting a better deal for EotD. I stated I would pull out of the pact with DoA - and I would have as a LAST possible choice, only as a negotiation tactic.
All of this, was to give EotD leverage. Instead of letting it play its course. Instead of letting me handle these conversations - you had a freak out.
If you would have yielded to me, even as nothing other than a diplomat, the issue would be resolved right now.
If you are so insistent that this is the best deal for EotD. Why not make the deal and the terms of EotD entering the DoA family public? For everyone to read?
I know I personally invalidated three of them. But what are the other ones? what is the full agreement? Can you at least share that?
Instead, you have let the server know that you are in DoA's back pocket regarding all issues. I ask you to join DoA. Take those in EotD loyal to you over to DoA. But before you do, offer them real explanation, with the truth, of everything that happened. Don't delete messages because they are not in your favor. You have turned into a despot. I am a despot involving Diplomacy, as all nations are. But not in terms of running the internals of an alliance. At the very least, change your name back to Legion of Ares and show your true colors.
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