Leaders making threats now?

DeletedUser37468

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Just wanted to make peeps aware of what is going on within the JTT coalition and some really quite confusing behaviour

We have a city under double revolt...

Revolted by Bloods at 10:46 on Aug 16
CS attempt by Bloods at 22:48 on Aug 16
Revolted by JTT at 07:22 on Aug 17

The confusing thing is....are JTT and Bloods working hand in glove now?

And just exactly who is this threat aimed at...was it cos a friend supported our city under Bloods attack (which they are allowed to do) or was it cos our friend supported under JTT attack (which they are not allowed to do)

Would someone please explain just who is in bed with who and why anyone thinks that the intimidation of players is right and correct?

BeerWench today at 04:42
you support invictus again, gain any def bp while we attack them, monitored by our bot, kiss your game goodbye
 
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DeletedUser19318

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my my.... am lost for words.. Not only has beerwench (who said he wanted an alliance that didn't use spies... and is now using them) resorted to doing actions he once expounded on as low and dirty... he now is making threats in game like a big bully!! hanging out with the wrong people does that to you I guess :eek:
 

DeletedUser37468

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There is something strange about the timeline that needs explanation

The Bloods CS was sniped by our friend just before midnight on Aug 16

The revolt on the same city by JTT arrived at 07:22 on Aug 17

Yet the threat from Wench at JTT arrived in our friend's inbox at 04:42 on Aug 17

Our friend was nowhere close to any of our cities prior to the CS snipe last night

So what gives?
 

DeletedUser42857

Guest
Well JTT and Bloods are clearly not working together if youve paid any attention to skype bot or grepostats over the last 72 hours.

Im in vm, no idea whats going on.
 

DeletedUser37468

Guest
Well JTT and Bloods are clearly not working together if youve paid any attention to skype bot or grepostats over the last 72 hours.

Im in vm, no idea whats going on.

You missed the point

Why would a leader from the JTT & Co family be concerned about a snipe against Bloods?

The friend had no support in the cities apart for that snipe at 23:48 on August 16, the surviving bireme were left in the city due to it being a Bloods revolt, not a JTT & Co one

The threat from the JTT & Co leader arrived AFTER the snipe but BEFORE the first JTT & CO attack

That is what I would like to have an explantion of...along with whether it is "normal" for a leader to send blatant threats to other players like that

....and lets not forget what happened to our sister team who due to having newby players in it who joined the game to learn how to play was summarily dismissed from the coalition having been deemed inadequate and the server being no place for newbies and they we discovered that not only did they get expelled, they were attacked by the leadership of JTT & Co before being kicked out...and when we refused to stop supporting our sister team we were then expelled and have been under attack ever since!

So that is JTT & Co is it?....allowed to bully, threaten, attack pacted alliances if they dare have newbies to the game in them and if they dare stand up to JTT & Co woe betide them

JTT & Co may or may not be in bed with Bloods...that really makes no difference...what is the issue here is that a leader who is sposed to set an example can think they can get away with threatening another player in another pacted team in the way that has been done

Dimspace...I know you have an issue finding fault with JTT & Co...but do you REALLY condone threats being made in that way?

Seriously?
 

DeletedUser42857

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Dimspace...I know you have an issue finding fault with JTT & Co...but do you REALLY condone threats being made in that way?

Seriously?

I didnt miss the point. You asked if JTT and Bloods were in bed with each other, i answered.

To be honest, weve seen a single line from what could be a pm conversation. very hard to know what is going on from just that one line copied from a pm. So im not going to comment.

anyway, you asked for explanation over who is in bed with who. Bloods are in bed with En. Bloods are not in bed with JTT. there ya go.
 
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DeletedUser21297

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Maybe revolt time is just coincident.. And message was just low attempt to find (checking with bot who is getting DPs in certain alliance) and scare as much newbies as they can, so they don’t support team mates. :rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser31385

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These leaders probably have surveillance drones watching your PC.
 

DeletedUser42857

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First try embedding the image...

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Second, nice try at stirring up some dissent, but numbers are my toy to play with :p

DBP (Just JTT v AJ)

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but if you factor in TS as well into JTT numbers

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So actually, if you look at the 24 hours they were being attacked...

JTT UNDER ATTACK 9th July

JTT DBP - 353,353
AJ DBP - 143035

AJ % - 40.03%

AJ UNDER ATTACK 17th July

AJ DBP - 251,719
JTT DBP - 111,118

JTT % - 44.14%

So sorry, but you are wrong.

Doesnt mean JTT couldnt have done more, they are the bigger alliance, but not quite how you portray it.
 

DeletedUser44766

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Great, an extra 4% for your extra 30 members. Great job!!!

Wanna talk numbers.

DBP/person-9th July
-JTT-4711
-AJ-3179
So JTT around 1.5 times more

-17th July
-AJ-5594
-JTT-1481
AJ around 3.8 times more...

Thanks for your help JTT :D Really paid us back for everything we did for you!
 
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DeletedUser36743

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Great, an extra 4% for your extra 30 members. Great job!!!

lol....mate are u also trying to sow dissent ??....u must be an EN undercover agent

So sorry, but you are wrong.

Doesnt mean JTT couldnt have done more, they are the bigger alliance, but not quite how you portray it.


Nope....u are wrong.... why dont you divide the DBP for both AJ and JTT/TS by the number of players in each.....seeing how JTT/TS are 250% the sie of AJ and then tell us how the %ages compare....so u see mate... its exactly how i portray it

In any case u dont need to convince me.... those in AJ who are loosing cities hand over fist know the reality and as they say sh** will float....


ps: As an aside i would like to know how to embed an image
 
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DeletedUser42857

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I don't play sufficiently anymore for it to matter lol. Also, i don't like people using statistics wrongly.

Arguably, neither of us used them properly, I used them as alliance as a whole regardless of number of players, you used them on a player average without taking into account the size of the player.


The right way to do it is possibly either..

DBP Per 1,000 pts

or

DBP per city

JTT - 595
TS - 344
===939
AJ - 446

so....

JTT UNDER ATTACK 9th July

JTT DBP - 376
AJ DBP - 320

AJ UNDER ATTACK 17th July

AJ DBP - 564
JTT DBP - 118

That looks a lot more favorable to AJ to be fair. That said, im in vm, mowing the lawn and the like so ive no idea what has actually been going on. Ive no idea what the defensive tab looks like, no idea what the travel time have been like, so ive not really got any idea what response has been like etc. So pretty much impossible for me to comment either way. Could be AJ;s support requests didnt have enough notice, could be that AJ had cities relatively well pre-defended so got good initial bp and the cs escorts which JTT defended were pretty light, could be JTT were slacking, could be they just ran out of defence, Ive absolutely no idea :D
 
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DeletedUser42857

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lol....mate are u also trying to sow dissent ??....u must be an EN undercover agent




Nope....u are wrong.... why dont you divide the DBP for both AJ and JTT/TS by the number of players in each.....seeing how JTT/TS are 250% the sie of AJ and then tell us how the %ages compare....so u see mate... its exactly how i portray it

In any case u dont need to convince me.... those in AJ who are loosing cities hand over fist know the reality and as they say sh** will float....


ps: As an aside i would like to know how to embed an image

As i said, dividing by players doesnt work either because not all players are equal. dividing by either city number, or per thousand points is statistically the more accurate way to do it.

(My choice would actually be "per developed city" - so count the number of cities per alliance over 5000pts to get "developed city total" then divide by that)

right click on image, copy image address

then paste it between [ img] [/ img] tags (without spaces)
 

DeletedUser

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Man oh man. Beerwench the honorable making threats, using bots... What has the world come to!

P.S. Obviously JTT aren't helping AJ's as much on DEF in return due to city loses. Perhaps AJ's should seek out different allies?
 

DeletedUser42857

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using bots...

Whos using bots?

Only bot use ive seen this world is players managing to hit 2 cs and 5 ls nukes in 4 seconds, all at first attempt, and not on our side :D

Ooh.. neg rep for asking a question, someones gotten to :D
 
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DeletedUser38168

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wow just wow

i logged on here to thank en for showing a little class but after reading this thread i remembered every reason y i refused to play with the en guys in this server its not enough for u to get 27 sister alliances and 50 pact alliances ( i am aware of the slight exaggeration) but my last count was 8 most of which in top ten when one of your fonder lost a couple of cites what was your answer sign up anther pact its quite sad really you guys dont wanna fight you just wanna sim you just want en 73 all over again dont u remember that server was soooo boring

as for this thread

jtt and bloods not working together just competing over territory and lets be honest invictus or sh*t so everyone going to go after them bw comments refer to a skype bot a bot i know for a fact en uses yet its founder makes such a stupid comment about it kron u let your self down get a grip

yes jtt dosn't use spy's u no this for a fact u played in our ranks and offered to plant them for us and been refused.

right i have rambled on long enough to clam my self down so i will now thank tim for his respectful actions calling a cease fire on my city i am please to announce i now have an amazing son born Friday night at 22.37 weighing 8 pound 1 called Warren Antony Webster

i end with a request to stop all this bs and get bk to fighting in the game
 
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