Player Council: Weekly Update

Discussion in 'Player's Council /Community Discussion' started by Phidippidies, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. Phidippidies

    Phidippidies

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    The EN Council Members Are:
    @Phidippidies (phidipp@gmail.com)
    @The Smilodon Fatalis (thekittenfatalis@gmail.com)
    @GothamSoldier (gothamsoldier5@gmail.com)
    @Bearissimus (bearissimus@gmail.com)
    @kuriants

    You can reach us through pm, or through the emails listed.

    We ask that if you have a reaction to anything that is posted here, you respond to it on the Player Council Discussion Thread. This way, the thread is kept clean and people can easily find the updated information. We'll try to have a weekly update of what is going on, or any other updates as needed.


     
  2. Phidippidies

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    Today, both myself and TSF gained access to the internal forums, and the inner council Skype group. At the moment we're catching up on all of the ideas that members of other servers in inner council have proposed (and believe me there are a plethora...)

    We've also created a new thread for proposals - you can post here if you have any concerns, ideas, or general comments about the game.

     
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  3. Phidippidies

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    @Rachel.L beat me to it, but here is the official announcement concerning the first discussion with Inno.

     
  4. DizzlJoe

    DizzlJoe Chiliarch

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    This gives no informations. you might as well just have said nothing about that skype call if you don't say anything about it. Its the same as saying: "I met up with people". We as the players would like to know more about what is going on.
     
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  5. ticina

    ticina Phrourach

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    Uhm.. We talked and stuff.. It was good.. Game is going downwards, but we talked..

    You need to chill with the events. There should be a space between halloween and christmas. Events that require units to participate sucks. I hope to never see pandora box again.
     
  6. Phidippidies

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    Okay, so first off I'm going to be that obnoxious person, and refer back to post one:

    "We ask that if you have a reaction to anything that is posted here, you respond to it on the Player Council Discussion Thread. This way, the thread is kept clean and people can easily find the updated information. We'll try to have a weekly update of what is going on, or any other updates as needed."


    Second: I want to clarify a few things about the DevBlog CAB call update.
    - This is the post that was approved of by Inno, and we don't have much space to share about what happened in the call outside of what is there. This post was also created in the interim of replacing the inner council members for EN, so we didn't have much say at the beginning of what went into the post - I rather anticipated someone would be upset with how vague it is, but I don't have much control outside of it.
    People have asked us for updates, and we're going to give those updates, no matter how vague they are.
    And aside from that, while it appears very vague, it's actually a pretty in-depth description of what actually happened to the extent of what we can share. Which brings us to point two.
    - The information shared isn't giving no information because nothing happened, but because it is all we actually can share about what happened.
    The call lasted a total of one hour and thirty minutes, since that was the allocated time the developers' had for the call. According to other people who were in that call, a significant portion of that time was spent introducing the developers and the game development process, as to make it easier for inner to find out how the idea process works and what we should be looking for with ideas. That information all falls under the 'confidential information' section that we're not supposed to share. The post is vague because most of the first call is stuff that fell under the NDA. After that there was an exchange of some of the main topics that inner found important - mainly, World Wonders and the Mobile App. From what I've been told from other inner members in the call, this section of the discussion was very brief, which is why there isn't much in-depth information about it.
    Since that post has gone public many other servers have started discussions about world wonder revamp ideas - we have one you can find here, and as for mobile app ideas I've made a collection of the proposals that players have brought up concerning mobile apps
    (many of which have already been proposed by other servers, but I'm listing them for priority sake)

    Third: Things that are happening now.
    - Inner has been setting up a few skype calls to talk to each other about the priority of ideas that we have. As with the ideas we've had with mobile app, I've been compiling ideas that players have posted on this board (as well as a few other relevant ideas from the ideas thread). The first call that we're having is set to be this weekend. If there's anything else y'all want to push forward, now would be a good time to do so. (Although I think this first call will be more about making the list smaller.)
    - In response to ticina about the events, specifically pandora: the inner council has been gathering opinions from their respective servers about pandoras box (we've taken our information from the acropolis subject) and while I can't say this with complete confidence, I think it's safe to say that's going to be a topic that the developers will ask about on the next call.

    And a note for confidence:
    We've had a good amount of time now to talk to other inner council members and get a recap on what happened in the previous few months, particularly what happened in said developer's call. ...And I mention this in particular because before getting into inner and after recent events, I admit, I was a little bit.... underwhelmed by the first call. Although perhaps still more optimistic than most... After talking to others who were in the call and getting their opinions of what happened, they assured me that during the call the developers seemed really interested. They were excited that the players in the call had a good history of experience, they were listening very intently during the short period of time that ideas were shared, and that they cared for the players' opinions and ideas.

    TLDR:
    - The post is really vague because it's all we're allowed to share based on the NDA, and not that much discussion on ideas actually happened. It was mostly an introduction.
    - Inner council is going to be having a talk soon about the ideas shared up to this point to prioritize them and thin out the list.
    - Feedback about Pandoras Box is being collected from each server to share with Inno.
    - According to others in the developers' skype call, the developers seemed to be very interested in the councils' opinions and excited to hear feedback.
     
  7. DizzlJoe

    DizzlJoe Chiliarch

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    See, even though there are no informations to share you can share the informations about this. It has a weird ring to it but that i what players are actually asking for. We want to be kept up to date about what is going on and how things are progressing. Even if there was just some random introduction and such there are still alot that can be said about it.
     
  8. The Smilodon Fatalis

    The Smilodon Fatalis Strategos

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    Hey all, so if there's any questions or concerns, can you put it in the discussions thread or make your own thread? Phi wants to keep this one clear for updates and easy access. Thanks all. :)

    @DizzlJoe (especially you ;) )
    @Loves You
    @ticina
    @Rachel.L

    Oh and @figtree2 or @Baudin Toolan. Can you clean this up?
     
  9. Phidippidies

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    Update: Week of 12/3/2017

    Since the last weekly update...
    - Gathered the most common feedback from the pandora's box thread to share with other inner council members.
    - Held a short Skype call on 12/2 with other members of inner council.
    Things that were brought forward during this call from the EN server: complaints made about world wonders, possible solutions to world wonders from other inner council members*, suggestions about the mobile app.

    Moving Forward...
    - The next inner council skype call is set (expected) to be held on 12/9.
    - Inner is currently taking a vote on the priority of ideas that have been proposed by various servers, and hoping to thin out that list to include only the most important ideas.

    *** I'd like to make it clear that the Skype calls mentioned here are INNER COUNCIL MEMBERS ONLY. NOT the CAB-developer calls referred to elsewhere. Anything developer-based will be shared on dev blog first.
    **** I'd also like to clarify that items mentioned are stuff that EN is sending to inner council - this doesn't mean that other inner council members will agree with it, or that it will be sent to developers.

    Note: *I'm not allowed to share ideas from other inner council members until I get official approval from them, and since these ideas were only talked about in the Skype call and not posted publicly elsewhere I don't have that permission yet.
     
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  10. Phidippidies

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    WEEKLY UPDATE: WEEK OF 12/10/2017
    Since the last update:
    - A skype call between inner members was held yesterday, 12/9, to discuss the list of ideas and what we wish to talk about with Inno at the next developer’s call.
    - Inner council took a vote on all items that were suggested from various servers, and ranked each item 1-5. Then an average of each item was taken – only averages above 4 will be moved forward into developers calls at this time. I’d like to make a disclaimer that just because a certain idea is not on this list, does not mean it won’t be sent to developers later, just that at this time it wasn’t a priority of all servers. We only have so much time in council, so we plan to emphasize the most important parts. See the list below.

    WONDERS:
    - ‘change’ the ending
    - change what happens after the ending.

    EVENTS:
    - reconsider events using glory points.
    - there are too many events.
    - make events less repetitive
    - decrease the effectiveness of gold.
    - make events equally fair to small and big players.

    MOBILE:
    - live conquests.
    - make admin availability the same
    - make events consistent across browser and mobile

    GAME FUNCTIONALITY:
    - have a button that will fill all caves with a single click
    - ability to publish all revolts in one click, and make it so reports can be published all at once.
    - allow forum mods to mark multiple comments and delete them all at once.

    Looking forward:
    - We plan on getting feedback for / ideas developed of some of the main topics that were ranked >4 on the priority list. Namely, wonders and events.
    - There is a forum for world ending ideas HERE
    - There is a forum for world ending feedback HERE
    - There is a forum for events feedback HERE
    - The next inner council Skype call is expected to be held sometime between Christmas and New Years, giving us time to gather feedback/develop ideas for wonders and events individually.


    Reminder: Please do not comment on this thread. direct questions/concerns/comments/political manifestos to the player council discussion thread.
     
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  11. bertie1969

    bertie1969 Lochagos

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    i just want to pick up on a few points i started this game at the end of 2011 i think it was and they were saying thewn about changing the crappy ww era and 7 years on still the same thing all inno manage is to make the game alot worse been no real changes that have made the game any better

    i never saw the point of having local council when it started and still dont see any use for it
     
  12. Phidippidies

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    Hey all - thank you for your patience....
    The summary of the DevBlog post is live - Here.
    (They mentioned that the blog might be put under maintenance for a short period of time today and that I should wait to post it - I'm not sure if I've waited long enough where the blog has already been updated, so it's possible it might be down by the time you check it. However, I do have to leave and might not be back until later. I wanted to make sure the link was here today, though, since y'all have been waiting)

    Either way, I've quoted it below for ease.

    With all of that being said, we're looking to get some feedback on a number of things.
    Discuss these topics over on this thread!

    Specifically:

    I'm going to reiterate really quickly... DON'T post here on THIS thread. I'll post these questions elsewhere as well, but thought it would be nice to have them and refer back to the prior points if needed.

    Here is a description of casual worlds from Kuri, in case you have any questions about what they are:
     
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  13. Phidippidies

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    I know people said they would prefer if I gave them an update even if not much has happened that we can talk about...... So this post is mostly just that.

    Most of what is going on right now is just forwarding opinions of the end game from servers to the developers - and the developers working with that information, figuring out what might need to be tweaked, etc. So as far as 'what is inner council doing?' - mostly just talks about the end game and our reactions to possible changes.

    See this week's devblog @ Devblog.grepolis.com
    Unfortunately at this time I don't have much more information than that....
    Since the end game proposal came out, most of the discussion has been on that.
    There are threads in the acropolis (and elsewhere, including devblog) to give responses to said ideas if you haven't already.

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    In addition to the information about the end game on the devblog, there is another thing that was asked for which hopefully will be showing up soon that was announced on devblog, for those of you who do not go on devblog to read updates:

     
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  15. ajayspocket

    ajayspocket Hipparchus

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    This is important , Please create a seperate thread to get visibility on the development plans
     

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