Competition PnP: The Death of the Rimlord Ethos

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I never said all your members where bad, the opposite in fact, but your good players did not train the players who would of needed the assistance, thats what i see as the downfall of reapers (even though im sure it would of been fine if SP didn't merge, i just simply see it as the most prominent flaw)

I completely agree with your four options, i think it definitely put a lot of pressure onto you, and i think the move into LOTR was fine. But the way in which it was done...;
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1. Its not that I will go and make them learn the game, Its the players who are interested in this game and want to make their game better have to ask players who has more experience, if they are not interested i cant do anything.

2. I was one who was talking to WG about joining/merge/forming new alliance. I left Piglets to make others to move/act fast also to draw attention of PN on me alone, so that moves maybe remains without notice. Because i was told that Savage was giving us time (a week) before breaking the pact, so i wanted to act fast and bring LOtR fighters to 55/44 55/54 front while the rest will preprare place for WWs. But then came WG jumping to Piglets after the founder invited him and gave founder rights, so I took it as disrespect to the talks we were making, that he didn’t tell me about that invitation or his willing to join, whatever. I changed my mind and went there where I wanted to go a while ago.

This is the whole story, now I feel easy :)
 

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Eff degee That just about sums you up.


Considering I had no loyalty to either alliances, simply acting in my best interests against the enemies of my time, only one decision made any sense...

Why not dedicate 1/7th to Kami, they are just as big of a threat to you as SP..

Are you seriously so disrespectful of The Rawr Dizyl Joe etc .. That you cavalierly dismiss them as being of no more importance than your group?

No Kami are not any significant threat. The only significant threats outside of Savage are MP (now that Lion has completed his journey to 56) and JFL.

At best you are an irritation.

Eventually we will distill down to a core of battle hardened players . The isolated Cities and weaker players on our Roster will dry up - as it will for Savage.
 
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I think we have already been over this honey, instead of continually being insulted by it; Grow up and move on...

I was put into LOTR leadership while i was on holiday in america, and i stayed for no reason other than the people who i owed loyalty had joined as well. I moved to PN to benefit LOTR & myself at the same time.

All those to whom i owed my allegiance left when the new world opened... so why would i follow you or TP? Both have done things for me, both been fair. You where hypocritical, so when MTEz approached me i said yes, so thats where my loyalty is with now... my team... our team.

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I dont think SP is super focused on you honey... you call us a distraction. They call you a distraction... because thats the grand total of what you have done to them. They seem to be more interested in fighting an actual enemy... named JFL

I dont see MP as any substantial threat to your 055 core or 065 core anytime soon. They are isolated in their ocean... surrounded by a large void of empty islands, they can expand into 066 to 065, but it'd be slow and boring.

And you seem to be holding hands with JFL... so i dont see what you're afraid of

We have a path to bash through to your core... and we are already starting that... so is SP, even as they curve NE, we do a curve more like a scythe...
 
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I think we have already been over this honey, instead of continually being insulted by it; Grow up and move on...

I was put into LOTR leadership while i was on holiday in america, and i stayed for no reason other than the people who i owed loyalty had joined as well. I moved to PN to benefit LOTR & myself at the same time.

All those to whom i owed my allegiance left when the new world opened... so why would i follow you or TP? Both have done things for me, both been fair. You where hypocritical, so when MTEz approached me i said yes, so thats where my loyalty is with now... my team... our team.



Lets cut the crap .. History Airbrush man .

Your Alliance which YOU abandoned when the going got tough was being cut to pieces. They came to me for help -

You retained rights in your own Alliance when it was subsumed into Rimgroup. You then set about your career specialism - namely playing both sides down the middle.

Don't you ever dare impugn me as hypocritical you little piece of vermin.

You change loyalties more times than you change your underpants .. AND much as people may hate me .. they also know that YOU are not to be trusted.
 

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Maj0rSharpe on 2017-10-06 at 10:08
it was one that had to made and had to be taken as we where at a point where we would have collapsed in hours.
EffDeeGee on 2017-10-05 at 21:30
I dont have much respect for RimLords
The Government is in invalid alliance who seemingly attacks whoever and whatever for the hell of it(incompetance)

In my eyes the best option of our success would be going into Parosi Nasilja because we are so far away from RL core, and we will get 0 support until we colonise next to them. A pact with RL is beneficial for late game, but as of now it is nothing but a name next to ours. And our enemies know that they are to far away to help.

Not to mention while i was getting rest i was attacked but 8 different people across 4 different alliances...

It was a fine decision in the moment, and beneficial for the majority of our alliance, however, i'm still deciding.
Maj0rSharpe on 2017-10-05 at 12:16
been a hard time mate..

sorry had to make some tough decisions...

do note i edited out parts of this message -- there was a lot more following the first sentence if you catch my drift.

If you think i don't understand the situation of my old alliance you are surely mistaken... we where playing for fun (nearly all revolt players, i was teaching them how conquest works). Against PN, Reapers, Renegades. All alliances who had experienced.

Edit: i can dig further for your messages before... you seemed more than eager to accommodate me
 

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"No fight" ... Yet we're sieging 4 savages cities as of this moment. We choose not to give any attention to your alliance Eff, because youre just another puzzle of Savages.

As for punching below our weight, we're holding fairly decent considering we had to fight for our cities in O55 that piglets left behind.

You're being shut out by two different teams and still blown out by the other. Yeah you're definitely punching below your weight.
 

DeletedUser41523

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"Rim Scrubs vs Masked Profanity: 0-43"



"Rim Scrubs vs Savage Group: 29-42"



"Rim Scrubs vs Kamikaze: 0-17"
I meant a day...If we were so terrible we would be losing atleast 5-10 cities a day. Kamikaze and Mp are picking of the isolated cities. And against savage we arent doing that bad we are slowly draining their flyers so thats something.
Its all caculated fam....next level strats.
 

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I meant a day...If we were so terrible we would be losing atleast 5-10 cities a day. Kamikaze and Mp are picking of the isolated cities. And against savage we arent doing that bad we are slowly draining their flyers so thats something.
Its all caculated fam....next level strats.

So you have 43+ towns that are "isolated" all around MP and Kamikaze who are in two different oceans?

Its all caculated fam....next level strats.

And Savage is ahead of you by a 2:1 ratio. Really seems like the only thing you're draining them of is slots...


I meant a day...If we were so terrible we would be losing atleast 5-10 cities a day.

The fact you have to rationalize it this way pretty much tells me all I need to know here.
 
So you have 43+ towns that are "isolated" all around MP and Kamikaze who are in two different oceans?


And Savage is ahead of you by a 2:1 ratio. Really seems like the only thing you're draining them of is slots...



The fact you have to rationalize it this way pretty much tells me all I need to know here.
Im not sure if you noticed but our alliance isnt a merge of 2 top alliances that has experianced players while we have a mix. So we are still doing pretty good all things considered. And with Mp they are isloted from the the main fighters that is.
 

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Im not sure if you noticed but our alliance isnt a merge of 2 top alliances that has experianced players while we have a mix. So we are still doing pretty good all things considered. And with Mp they are isloted from the the main fighters that is.

Main fighters like, who? Like WHG, who himself lost two cities to us this past week? Or main fighters like you with your magnificent attacking bir?
 

DeletedUser41523

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Im not sure if you noticed but our alliance isnt a merge of 2 top alliances that has experianced players while we have a mix. So we are still doing pretty good all things considered. And with Mp they are isloted from the the main fighters that is.

No...no you are not doing well. I've taken new players and still done well with them. By doing well I mean winning wars and challenging good teams. So put that card back in the deck its not gonna work on me.

But look on the bright side, with the release of the college bowl schedule, this is no longer the most out of touch and insane thing I've ready today. Ima go be salty about an unranked Michigan playing on New Years and a ranked Michigan State not see you all in a bit.

Edit: You don't HC with birs.
 

DeletedUser54360

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The points Pawcio was trying to make with the lynch Mob are simple.

LOTR did not pre form and it did not merge the two largest groups on the server. These are clear differences between us and other main groups now.

It works with the players available and deals with those realities.

The two fights we HAVE to win right now are for Ocean 55 and 65.

The majority of cities MP have picked up - they would have picked up anyway - it has just taken longer than they would have liked - and that was always the point.

The ex Renegades and Under Discussion team mates of your draft picks Tetra and Luckjakman were always going to struggle in South 56 and 46. Eskimi and Viceadmiral are paying the price of Tetra and Jackman betrayal and abandonment. Yes they are losing their cities but your two converts already lost something more precious.

So you braying Jack O'Lantern can bray away all you want - Our territory is 65 and 55 and in the main we hold up very well in those territories.

Now if you think that is an accident. So be it .. Yesterday was not a great day for us - but strip away Project TetraLuk Betrayal and there is very little for anyone to see.

We lost a couple of inactives and gained 4 key contested cities in our core 55 territory.

I have no doubt you will strip away another 20 but you were always going to get these cities that the glorious twosome were fattening up for market. What gets me is that ESkimi and Viceadmiral actually believed in Tetra and Luk once....

Well that is a lesson that only ever needs to be learnt once.
 
No...no you are not doing well. I've taken new players and still done well with them. By doing well I mean winning wars and challenging good teams. So put that card back in the deck its not gonna work on me.

But look on the bright side, with the release of the college bowl schedule, this is no longer the most out of touch and insane thing I've ready today. Ima go be salty about an unranked Michigan playing on New Years and a ranked Michigan State not see you all in a bit.

Edit: You don't HC with birs.
Yes you do if it's the closest thing you have. Works just as well, tells you if the city is in siege or not.
 

DeletedUser41523

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Again, you don't get the pull the "we're not a premade or experienced" card. I'm pretty confident that a lot of the people you're arguing against have been there and done that with success against quality teams.

Ima laugh when savage and MP all end up in your turf.

Its ironic, you're delusional in claiming that you're winning and that you're good and these advanced strategies. But if you really were playing well, you wouldn't be spread across countless oceans to begin with. And if you were really that good, you'd at least be on the scoreboard by now. Just something to think about.
 

DeletedUser52220

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The points Pawcio was trying to make with the lynch Mob are simple.

The majority of cities MP have picked up - they would have picked up anyway - it has just taken longer than they would have liked - and that was always the point.

The ex Renegades and Under Discussion team mates of your draft picks Tetra and Luckjakman were always going to struggle in South 56 and 46. Eskimi and Viceadmiral are paying the price of Tetra and Jackman betrayal and abandonment. Yes they are losing their cities but your two converts already lost something more precious.

What gets me is that ESkimi and Viceadmiral actually believed in Tetra and Luk once....

Okay so with regard to the quoted...

Pretty sure simply responding to posts does not constitute a lynch mob - if everybody is against you it's more than likely because you're wrong *GASP* who'd have thought it.

Like so much you have to say for yourself, this time-frame we 'would have liked' is entirely imagined. Please stick to subjects you can at least reasonably con people into believing you have direct knowledge of without it falling into the realms of laughable, or failing that, provide some evidence to back up your erratic claims, like, idk, maybe a few weeks worth of failed CQ attempt reports on these cities we supposedly would have liked to have taken sooner.

As for your comments regarding Tetra and Luk. Both remained in UD longer than they needed to precisely because they didn't want to 'abandon' their ex-team mates. It's neither of their faults that MP standards of admission do not cover simmers and spammers. If Eskimi, and more so Viceadmiral, feel choices others made on this world dealt them an unfair hand, that's on them and their play, putting that responsibility on someone else is bogus in the extreme.

With regard the claim of betrayal, I'd like to see your supporting evidence on that. They left a failing alliance and joined a successful one. Others in that failing alliance joined your alliance. Former teammates became red. Cities were lost. That's literally as complicated as it gets, no betrayal, no anything at all beyond standard events over the course of a world on Grepolis. Each and every person on this game has the right to have the best game-play experience they can have, there's absolutely no shame in that, so please stop being so melodramatic, clearly you have not yet learned the basic life lesson that you will never make yourself look better by putting someone else down.

edit: and finally, here's a puzzler for you. Who left UD first, Tetra and Luk, or Eskimi and Viceadmiral... answers on a postcard...
 
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