Do you even know why they were all building defensive cities and not really doing much else?
I would like to mention those that really held this alliance together. (not in order of importance)
Thrillos, Nafplion, Seydon, Misfits83, SaintScott, Jim the conquerer, vano25, Northern, stengermeeldoos
i fail to see your point here wrexham. while i can't speak for Thrillos, Nafplion or Seydon. i can tell you that vano25 was a very good player that came up with some of the most successful ops S300 did on ST including the op on ST's tomb. as for the others.This is not what we discovered at the time of merge ...... We found these players (apart from Northern who had already left) where the ones that did nothing except watch (deadwood) ..... they just built defence cities and did not contribute anymore. ..... they might have kept the alliance going along time ago, but at the time of merge they werent actually helping or doing anything .....
Im sure the stats will confirm this of who was actually doing ......
Ulltimately what makes Alliances fall that allow their 1000's of cities to no longer exist as part of that Alliance is their morale,thats why members leave that Alliance, and that solely depends upon leadership.Putting things in perspective
The truth is no large alliance usually wipes out another alliance …. what makes alliances fall are : Traitors, Cowards and In-actives. (not conquest attacks).
It is impossible for any large alliance to completely conquest another alliance who has thousands of cities.
And that, is how we know Janisseries are now a spent force (figuratively speaking ofc) in Athens, and that makes your leadership now the exact same as Thrillos leadership or Seydon's or whoever was in charge of 300 during the detoriation. Your games over, but you'll hold the reins till your Alliance drifts into inactivity rather than hand it over to some new blood to try enjoy the remainder of the server.Putting things in perspective
...... the rest of us are just waiting for the game to finish so we can move on to another world.
One of the terms of our merge was that Jan's had nothing to do with WW ..... dont like them, never have, and didnt want anything to do with them ........ if the spartan players who were already involved with them wished to carry on then that was their decision ...... In the time it took from agreeing to merge till the time we actually did .... in this period i believe the WW was given away.but i do have 1 question for you wrexham, you say the WW didn't impact your decision but surely the tomb was fully built when you was asked to merge with them as that sort of thing isn't taken with a pinch of salt is it
News must travel slow down in those parts, MoRC won that award 3 months ago, and you merged with 300 less than 4 weeks ago, I doubt you'd have bothered if you actually believed that was the end of the serverThe reason why players are waiting to leave this world is because this world has been won ...... Congrates to MORC
I think we're pretty much on same path and no, morale isn't the only reason players go inactive, but when an alliance as whole is affected by it to the point they fold, whilst those same players happily play with good activity in other servers, my money is on morale.some interesting thoughts ..... i dont agree with them all though.
People go in-active for a number of reasons .... i.e. real life issues ..... so its not all down to morale as you imply
But i stand by what i said regarding players who no longer have time to play and some thing that i will agree with you.
If players dont have the time then they should leave the game to allow new blood to come to the front ..... in-active players only drag down morale.
Gumbles world rocks manOne of the terms of our merge was that Jan's had nothing to do with WW ..... dont like them, never have, and didnt want anything to do with them ........ if the spartan players who were already involved with them wished to carry on then that was their decision ...... In the time it took from agreeing to merge till the time we actually did .... in this period i believe the WW was given away.
P.s gumbles .... jans has not fallen and never will, atleast not to suntzu anyway ..... infact its the opposite.
Its amusing how you see things in gumbles little world.
For the record, ST had no intention of ever attacking Jan, last I checked you're in the opposite direction to MoRC & 300 were already dead.
Actually we had a very interesting conversation forward to us out of suntzu forum, before the war started, suntzu where planning on attacking Jans to gain a tacticle advantage on spartan ..... so we already knew your plans before the joker issue .... We knew it was only a matter of time,
LOL that is pretty funny.Yes, a big thank you to Napflion for doing that
howdy all,Actually we had a very interesting conversation forward to us out of suntzu forum, before the war started, suntzu where planning on attacking Jans to gain a tacticle advantage on spartan ..... so we already knew your plans before the joker issue .... We knew it was only a matter of time,
Acquiring large numbers of cities by the art of negotiation (i.e multiple-merging)Yes, a big thank you to Napflion for doing that
I've never hidden into vm nor will i ever do. I had to do some travelings (because i have a job, yes some people work) which severely limited my online time. I knew you were gonna say something about the fact i was in vm, even though i almost never go into vm.LOL that is pretty funny.
Not what you wrote, but the fact your hiding in vm inworld as you wrote it with 45 & 46 falling to pieces and those players left to defend for themselves, leaderless. Not farabub ofc, he ran to vm with you.
Hello everyone, i've been part of SunTzu for over a year now, and i thinks its safe to say that i'm third in command or at least, "in command when gumbles isn't present and billy is busy with his popcorn"The Mergers claimed the "Winner of Athens" award, we were simmed out, bored into inactivity and thought the server was done. Many started going inactive (myself included) and I was about 1 week away from ghosting my account and had even said my goodbyes, was just waiting around a week to pass of cities before ghosting.