[11/5/2011 7:07:03 PM] Merry Williams: yes, okay kris
[11/5/2011 7:07:10 PM] Merry Williams: me and trib and nick here
[11/5/2011 7:07:18 PM] Merry Williams: nwinder heres kriS, kris heres nick
[11/5/2011 7:07:30 PM] Nicholas Winder: how you doing Kristo?
[11/5/2011 7:08:58 PM] Kris: I am fine, not at all strssed and enjoying the total chaos of Delta right now!
[11/5/2011 7:09:07 PM] Kris: You?
[11/5/2011 7:09:16 PM] Nicholas Winder: oh, dipping into the 7am whisky pot
[11/5/2011 7:09:45 PM] Merry Williams: lmao
[11/5/2011 7:09:47 PM] Nicholas Winder: Basically, why I wanted to talk to you - directly is we need to secure the future viability of the membership of eotd - whether under the IoA or DoA banner - or any other banner you see fit
[11/5/2011 7:10:22 PM] Nicholas Winder: as long as it is not a Harbinger banner
[11/5/2011 7:10:42 PM] Kris: Are you suggesting a merger?
[11/5/2011 7:11:01 PM] Nicholas Winder: I am quitting - Dysen won't be around much longer
[11/5/2011 7:11:05 PM] Nicholas Winder: the actions of Philney have killed EotD
[11/5/2011 7:11:25 PM] Nicholas Winder: Dysen has asked me to stick around for a few days - to help make sure EotD finds a good home
[11/5/2011 7:11:38 PM] Nicholas Winder: and I will grant that request to a good friend
[11/5/2011 7:12:44 PM] Nicholas Winder: Philney has told us he will either unpact us if dysen stays at the helm
[11/5/2011 7:12:53 PM] Nicholas Winder: or continue to work with us if I take over as leader of EotD
[11/5/2011 7:13:02 PM] Nicholas Winder: I am not willing to do that to a friend
[11/5/2011 7:13:08 PM] Nicholas Winder: I am not willing to betray a friend from a game
[11/5/2011 7:13:17 PM] Merry Williams: u wont betray dy nick
[11/5/2011 7:13:45 PM] Nicholas Winder: Dysen and I have spent more time on the phone over the past year than any two non-lovers should
[11/5/2011 7:14:00 PM] Merry Williams: lmao, i know....but we need u guys in delta
[11/5/2011 7:14:18 PM] Nicholas Winder: guys, I am not here to discuss anything other than the future of the EotD members
[[11/5/2011 7:16:59 PM] Kris: I am willing to discuss what can be done to secure the future of your members if you wish
[11/5/2011 7:17:06 PM] Nicholas Winder: I do wish
[11/5/2011 7:17:30 PM] Kris: Ok, so what concerns do you have or reassurances do you need?
[11/5/2011 7:17:47 PM] Nicholas Winder: just that you won't feed them to the wolves
[Saturday, November 05, 2011 7:22 PM] Nicholas Winder:
I offer you this favor Kris
Honey Badgers were looking for a pact to fight DoA
but you did not hear this from me
or anyone else I am affilated
we offered them a NAP and refused to enter a pact against DoA
[11/5/2011 7:29:31 PM] Nicholas Winder: Let's be honest, DoA is the best alliance in Delta
[11/5/2011 7:29:38 PM] tribulus: Everything I've seen and heard says I'm supportive of Nick and Dy even tho I've only now talked to one of them for the first time. I sense Kris is on that page also.
[11/5/2011 7:29:43 PM] Merry Williams: AMEN TO THAT NICK
[11/5/2011 7:32:07 PM] Nicholas Winder: Look guys, I appreciate it.
[11/5/2011 7:32:26 PM] tribulus: Okay, so my recommendation for what little it may be worth is a merger consideration is in order. We then move to the next level of problem solving from there.
[11/5/2011 7:34:05 PM] Merry Williams: you and dy are the titans and together unbeatable, if you stand together with loyal friends and allies you will get through this
[11/5/2011 7:34:45 PM] Nicholas Winder: I am the most hated person in Delta. I am reminded of it every, single day. My corner is dead. LoC died long ago. the boxing match is over. My sway in this world is dead. Delta is definably better without me. EotD is better without me. DoA is better whatout me. Taking me in is a liability. you have all strove over the past year plus to defeat me. I admit defeat. Let's move on from that - and found some common ground in the future. A future without me.
"I offer you this favor Kris
Honey Badgers were looking for a pact to fight DoA
but you did not hear this from me
or anyone else I am affilated
we offered them a NAP and refused to enter a pact against DoA"
[11/5/2011 7:43:30 PM] Kris: In days to come you'll think differently I'm sure about leaving
[11/5/2011 7:44:58 PM] Merry Williams: and you should talk to EOTD and see if they want ya by them til the end, or howd they feel if you left???
[11/5/2011 7:45:18 PM] Kris: If you want DoA to look at taking in EOTD members or taking control of EOTD we will discuss terms and practicalities
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:38 PM] Nicholas Winder:
see, here is my issue -
the agreement with doa stated doa would go to war with the huns
with ioa that they would go to war with harbs.neither of those have come true,if neither of them comes true
I see no reason to keep a pact with either alliance I thought pulling out of the pact with honey badgers was a mistake - as diplomacy requires legacI am tired of talking about what people are going to do in the future. I want to talk about the present. What is DoA going to do right now
[11/22/2011 9:50:58 PM] Nicholas Winder: are they going to hold our contract, as I have for them - or are they going to negiate the contract
[11/22/2011 9:51:06 PM] Merry Williams: well you need to go to kris and propose u guys say we need to war all huns or u will further talks with other options
[11/22/2011 9:51:20 PM] Merry Williams: idk
[11/22/2011 9:51:29 PM] Nicholas Winder: If no one knows -
[11/22/2011 9:51:35 PM] Merry Williams: thats all I can say,i do not think it best for doa to fight on every side
[11/22/2011 9:51:35 PM] Nicholas Winder: that is not a secure place for EotD to be
[11/22/2011 9:52:20 PM] Merry Williams: I realize that
[11/22/2011 9:52:24 PM] Merry Williams: but one thing at a time nick
[11/22/2011 9:52:25 PM] Nicholas Winder: Aside from small DoA skirmishes with Harbs
[11/22/2011 9:52:32 PM] Merry Williams: ive been on all day everyday!
[11/22/2011 9:52:33 PM] Nicholas Winder: Absolutely not
[11/22/2011 9:52:36 PM] Merry Williams: doing all i can
[11/22/2011 9:52:38 PM] Nicholas Winder: We already had an agreement
[11/22/2011 9:52:48 PM] Merry Williams: do u know how much we have secured chatotics?
[11/22/2011 9:52:53 PM] Nicholas Winder: I am asking something fair and honest, is that agreement going to be upheld or not Isn't it pretty easy to understand, we can't make a "choice" until we know if the agreement is going to be honored or not
[11/22/2011 9:53:29 PM] Merry Williams: Ask Kris, hes number one.....I dont think its been proposed to him u guys will leave us if we dont fight huns
[11/22/2011 9:53:30 PM] Merry Williams: and it is not my place
[11/22/2011 9:53:45 PM] Merry Williams: and thats the same n r end nick!
[11/22/2011 9:53:59 PM] Merry Williams: we cant make anything final until we have something final
[11/22/2011 9:54:05 PM] Nicholas Winder: I have told everyone
[11/22/2011 9:54:07 PM] Merry Williams: we aqll need to give a lil to get a lil
[11/22/2011 9:54:11 PM] Nicholas Winder: I won't betray DoA
[11/22/2011 9:54:16 PM] Merry Williams: well thats good to know
[Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:50 PM] Nicholas Winder:
well, we now have proof Relentless is supporting Honey Badgers
and supported them while they were the huns
which firedawn and clairequ swore to us they never were
We agreed to an NAP with the honey badgers
they are not allies, But one of our conditions was that daniejam cannot be in their alliance and we are pretty sure sunwolf1 is daniejam
in which case dysen and I will throw a f-ing fit
at any point, we can turn against the honey badgers, all we have is an NAP
we just have to tell them we are going against them
so nothing is set in stone
Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:28 PM] Nicholas Winder:
SUNWOLF
if I find out he is daniejam (looks like Dys not the only one that had a thing for em)
if I find out
< [Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:58 PM] Nicholas Winder:
Kristo answered my questions about Sparky and they were more than agreeable
and that was what we were really waiting for
trust me on this one the Honey Badgers, have now totally forgotten about you
they have admitted it was a mistake you still have enemies, but they are no longer THB.
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[12/13/2011 3:28:42 PM] philney: I am sure
[12/13/2011 3:28:53 PM] philney: I am trying to find a way to motivate myself
[12/13/2011 3:29:02 PM] philney: going to dissolve some pacts or something
[12/13/2011 3:29:12 PM] Nicholas Winder: that is exactly what I am thinking
[12/13/2011 3:29:18 PM] Nicholas Winder: perhaps it is time to just destroy eotd
[3:25 AM] philney: .....
<[Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:45 PM] Nicholas Winder:
I mean essentially you are the same as Dysen. You are playing the fence, you are giving timelines for what will occur, that always pass.
You make a statement, and you don't follow through. You are purposely misleading people who are supposed to trust you, and whom you urge to trust you.
I really, at this point in time, see no difference. His interest in nmapleloft is the same as your interest in Greco. At the end of the day, how are you guys any different?
Sit on the fence, fail to engage in military operations you are supposed to engage in, and stay pacted with the people you were supposed to be fighting. In your case, it is even worse though. We were always supposed to fight the huns. We never talked about killing DoA. The Huns was always our first move. Kill the huns and then kill DoA.