TKF's Power Rankings Edition Ten: OCEANS VETERANS Rise, Spirtum Sancti Hanging By A Thread, Warlords Fall Out!

Pete Dunham

Phrourach
BB is honestly horrible and would be wiped off the map if not for diplo
You cant have good diplo if you arent in a position of power.

you cant be in a position of power if you arent strong.

and good diplo in itself is a game changer.

so, thank you ;)
 
@Pete Dunham See this is what I love. You're not wrong. To be honest I think all teams in the top 3 have made their cases to be #1. I also think that the top 3 will shuffle around a lot. I do agree that you guys have the most impressive resume overall, you guys have also overcome the most adversity. I also think you'll add to that resume on Beasties.

Why I chose this order is because BWN has and still is #1 at this time. Outside of OV, they've won their fights relatively cleanly.
OV got #2 because they're narrowly beating #1. Granted its their only fight. But its pretty hard to ignore that record.
Balkans got #3 for this edition not out of lack of merit on their own end. But because the competition is tough.

All I can say is that if current trends continue or are even expanded on, you might find a situation where Balkans are #1, OV is #2, BWN is #3. Or OV Jumps BWN for #1. Or any combination of that. Depending on record. I also won't keep BWN at #1 or OV at #2 if the war remains stalemated while the Balkans are growing at free will and beating Beasties.
 

Lord Prometey

Chiliarch
Shut up Balkan Dog, your opinion is irrelevant, forum is where only people of higher intellect and skill may talk, e.g. yossarian or kurb
 

Fluvisol

Phrourach
You cant have good diplo if you arent in a position of power.

you cant be in a position of power if you arent strong.

and good diplo in itself is a game changer.

so, thank you ;)
You can definitely be in a position of power if you aren't strong
I can even show you an example right now of someone in a position of power who is so bad at this game that he has consistently been an easy target for me and many people I know in previous worlds, yet this world somehow somebody gave him space to grow and now he has the bir to stack his frontline cities as to not lose them when he inevitably misses more alarms than he catches
Example:
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And well, we'll see if that diplo holds up because boy do I want to come near you, I'm in desperate need of bp and all the greeks are running to vm :)

Also for those who know me probably needless to say what I think about relying on diplo lol
 

The rawr

Phrourach
no, u still bad, bunnies were just worse

I love it when you guys cry on someones top 12 for not getting ranking you desire. I even dare to say TWBC should be on higher position than you.

hehe! Good lord Yoss, you are absolutely right. I love it when you cry too. TWBC leader is already proven and its a very good ally. Why should we bother if they go to higher position than ours or lower? We are on the same side after all. Its just a friendly competition of how fast we can kill enemy ally's cities ;)

Have fun till u can Yoss.
 

The rawr

Phrourach
You can definitely be in a position of power if you aren't strong
I can even show you an example right now of someone in a position of power who is so bad at this game that he has consistently been an easy target for me and many people I know in previous worlds, yet this world somehow somebody gave him space to grow and now he has the bir to stack his frontline cities as to not lose them when he inevitably misses more alarms than he catches
Example:
And well, we'll see if that diplo holds up because boy do I want to come near you, I'm in desperate need of bp and all the greeks are running to vm :)

Also for those who know me probably needless to say what I think about relying on diplo lol

Fluv, threats do not go well with Balkans as the history of this server goes. We are very loyal and trustworthy to our allies. Never broken a single promise.

Remember it before making unnecessary comments like this in public.

I do not bother who you were in past or what your record is. You can check mine if u want too. Doesn't matter a bit. Every server is new and everyone starts from scratch. No one can reach here till this phase unless they are good at it.

Next time you insult another BALKAN BOYZ like this - trust me, there will be no diplomat or diplomacy which can save u or your alliance if they support you in that matter against their oldest ally in this server.
 
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Fluvisol

Phrourach
Never broken a single promise.
Except the one where you were going to hand off the cities in west 44 but instead lost them one by one to the SS LMD, usually without even telling us it was in siege? I mean eventually we got the cities but still
Remember it before making unnecessary comments like this in public
Coming from the guy MMing the world because he got beaten on timing
No one can reach here till this phase unless they are good at it.
At this point in the server there's still people without alarms, people who attack with unescorted transports and people who have no clue how to time.
Next time you insult another BALKAN BOYZ like this
Are we just ignoring the fact you said I'm a botter because I told your alliance how to time and that timing is no sign of botting as a human can time better than a bot?
I mean I could also bring up the fact that most of your alliance mass reported me for that in Lato and then got banned themselves for it, but as you said, old worlds don't matter right? :)
trust me, there will be no diplomat or diplomacy which can save u
Who said I need saving?

I'll be happily waiting for the next episode in "how serious can someone take a post with a word in front of post I'm not allowed to say on this forum but would definitely be fitting"
 

Fluvisol

Phrourach
Soos I'm not sure which team you're saying deserves to win but either way I'll have to say you're wrong. The only team that deserves to win is Spiritum Sancti
 

Fixed Rates

Taxiarch
Balkans are an amazing group. I have no doubt in my mind that if they decided to fight Bad with Names, instead of allying themselves with them, then Bad with Names would not have lasted longer than 3 weeks in this server.
 

Pete Dunham

Phrourach
Soos I'm not sure which team you're saying deserves to win but either way I'll have to say you're wrong. The only team that deserves to win is Spiritum Sancti
funny part is, this statement doesnt sound one bit more trollish then the rest of the stuff you wrote.
 

Pete Dunham

Phrourach
You can definitely be in a position of power if you aren't strong
I can even show you an example right now of someone in a position of power who is so bad at this game that he has consistently been an easy target for me and many people I know in previous worlds, yet this world somehow somebody gave him space to grow and now he has the bir to stack his frontline cities as to not lose them when he inevitably misses more alarms than he catches
Example:
And well, we'll see if that diplo holds up because boy do I want to come near you, I'm in desperate need of bp and all the greeks are running to vm :)

Also for those who know me probably needless to say what I think about relying on diplo lol
Im not even gonna comment you trying to call droggen out here, but you actually tried comparing a player and an alliance when it comes to the server situation.

even by your frantic logic how does a horrible alliance, get itself into a position of power, destroys several alliances, gets back up from betrayals and core breaks and all the while appearently helps a horrible player get into top 10 rank in the world in both points overall and BP?

Your logic simply doesnt hold
 

Fluvisol

Phrourach
Im not even gonna comment you trying to call droggen out here, but you actually tried comparing a player and an alliance when it comes to the server situation.

even by your frantic logic how does a horrible alliance, get itself into a position of power, destroys several alliances, gets back up from betrayals and core breaks and all the while appearently helps a horrible player get into top 10 rank in the world in both points overall and BP?

Your logic simply doesnt hold
Right, comparison to an alliance that was in a very similar position
Story time!

Our story begins in 2018
en107, Heliopolis
Neighbourhood Delinquents, coincidentally also with Hi Droggen in the alliance
Also pacted with BWN, also "destroying several alliances, getting back from betrayals"
Ranked #4 in the world in points and like top 5 in BP I believe at the point I'm about to tell you about

I can't remember exactly why the pact ended, I think they stopped helping much though the fact that they took in someone who betrayed BWN probably didn't help. I was also pushing for it to end but tbf I just despise pacts :D
So pact ends, one player decides to go fight the #4 alliance in the world. Mostly alone, some support on sieges but that player had a huge amount of defense built so could hold solo sieges without low morale.
Guess what? Turns out ND was actually complete trash and got basically dismantled by a single player.

Bonus points for the comparison!
Their top player, todott, was also high in rank and bp. And ran to vm after losing cities and fliers to said player.

And there you have it!
So yes, I don't know how yall keep pulling it off, but the parallels are undeniable there :)
 

Pete Dunham

Phrourach
Right, comparison to an alliance that was in a very similar position
Story time!

Our story begins in 2018
en107, Heliopolis
Neighbourhood Delinquents, coincidentally also with Hi Droggen in the alliance
Also pacted with BWN, also "destroying several alliances, getting back from betrayals"
Ranked #4 in the world in points and like top 5 in BP I believe at the point I'm about to tell you about

I can't remember exactly why the pact ended, I think they stopped helping much though the fact that they took in someone who betrayed BWN probably didn't help. I was also pushing for it to end but tbf I just despise pacts :D
So pact ends, one player decides to go fight the #4 alliance in the world. Mostly alone, some support on sieges but that player had a huge amount of defense built so could hold solo sieges without low morale.
Guess what? Turns out ND was actually complete trash and got basically dismantled by a single player.

Bonus points for the comparison!
Their top player, todott, was also high in rank and bp. And ran to vm after losing cities and fliers to said player.

And there you have it!
So yes, I don't know how yall keep pulling it off, but the parallels are undeniable there :)
You actually thinking we would fall off like that is laughable at best.

The whole reason we had issues was because we played too much as a group of strong individuals rather than as a team. we play a lot more like a team now, without ever stopping to be a group of strong individuals. (the sole fact we have Moonwalker in the team can stand for that fact, the dude is worth like 5 people and he is far from the only good player in the team.)

I am not blaming you for despising pacts, but you all keep attacking us and BWN for having a pact that lasts this long simply cos it destroyed the chances of anyone else besides the one of us wining the crown.
Even if I like the pact or dont, it worked well for a long time, still works and there is simply no reason for us to dissolve it other than "people on the forums complain this isnt fun to them or rather for them"