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DeletedUser38223

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i said im not into beating my chest,, not that i didnt ,, i was simply doing it because i see people ranting on about how were an mra and only are doing good by recruiting members,,, i was simply pointing out our abp and our other stats to make those people realize they are wrong ,,, that being said i dont like beating my chest but i found it necessary this one time
 
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DeletedUser

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Having just re read this thread only one person has mentioned MRA, if you read from when it got lively, well as lively as this forum gets
which was after this nice post, and before you recruited high point players from lol

League of loosers are below their academy's rank Lmao
thats shows how good they are :D
Would that be chest beating?

I personally understand the idea behind the recruiting, and I think it will work out well in the end of the world,
I do however think, you did not need to do it that way, Night Fall have always been the alliance to keep an eye on, to beat! it was plainly obvious from the start.
however if it keeps this forum lively,
5 of your top 12 players have been recruited since 2013 started ;)
 

DeletedUser345

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maybe not elite , but still by far the best in every area that's relevant are average points per player is way above the next in line , we have the most city take overs, and are abp is more then double 2nd place and almost 4 times the amount of other respectable alliances,,,for people saying we are a mra look at the thread that explains what an mra is and you will find that we dont fit the bill

If we are just good what does that make everyone else?:p

First off let me congratulate you on your intense loyalty, I saw you were one of the members to join from LoL the whipping boys, was your leader correct in saying you'd lost 90% of your troops. Secondly may i congratulate you in your recent colonization, very pro. ABP only 15 places above mine which is very poor. Also off on a limb in ocean 54, not too far away but still not a big enough scoop to warrant an invite from such an 'elite' alliance. I think your recruitment in itself proves a point.

Average points are high, however still a bit early although it does give an indication, on the other hand as I mentioned earlier it seems you only recruit based on points so it is bound to be high. City takers, a lot of members 150+ would always enable you to do best at this stat. ABP, impressive however again a lot more members help although you are doing very well. Massive lead over other respectable alliances? Isn't your old alliance respectable? So much for loyalty maybe you'll be just as fickle with Night Fall.

I never said you were a proper all out MRA I simply pointed out a lot of things which indicated you were. Since you mentioned that thread lets take a look shall we?

  • "Invites Hundreds of people without the thought of locality." Box ticked.
  • "They will spread everywhere and in every ocean/world they can recruit in." Same principle ticked.
  • "MRAs are badly run." Jury is still out, certainly 'addysaynuttin' isn't up to it.
  • "At least 50% of inactive members that run as an individual ingame and never help each other." Don't know about ingame helpfulness but most of your members are active although I could imagine a lot don't contribute. So i'd say you'd pass on this.

So you fail 2/4 things in that thread you mentioned with the jury still out on the third. Now personally firstly I wouldn't have brought that thread up because it is pretty damning and secondly I don't rate that thread.

achilles why do you care so much about this subject to actually take the time to wright all these big rants?

*Write (sorry iced I just needed to help the fellow understand the language better). Why do I care? I don't particularly. Why do I take the time? Because I enjoy it.
 

DeletedUser38223

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ok achilles i joined from lol before they were even at war with any one, it was early in the game , and i seen that night fall was more suited for me so i left not because of loyalty issues its because where i wanted to be ,, me and lol's leader are still friends and theres no hard feelings, but thanks for bring up something that has nothing to do with what we are talking about...that fact that you bring up my personal stats shows a lack of maturity,,,well we havnt invited hundreds of people for one (we dont even have 200 members) and your first and second point are pretty much the same ,,

and for your last remark snobbishly correcting my spelling , yet another sign of being very childish and immature

Having just re read this thread only one person has mentioned MRA, if you read from when it got lively, well as lively as this forum gets
which was after this nice post, and before you recruited high point players from lol


Would that be chest beating?

I personally understand the idea behind the recruiting, and I think it will work out well in the end of the world,
I do however think, you did not need to do it that way, Night Fall have always been the alliance to keep an eye on, to beat! it was plainly obvious from the start.
however if it keeps this forum lively,
5 of your top 12 players have been recruited since 2013 started ;)
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first off let me congratulate you for actualy being honorable in our discussion , not every one have that quality:p

haha i said IM not into chest beating I can't speak for other players,,, and about the recruiting, yes we got some high ranking players from lol ,, but i would like to see any other alliance turn them down,, it just wouldnt happen , they came to us and were in it to win, we have plenty of other cities and enemies to conquer, so allowing a valuable asset join the team isn't a negative thing in anyway , its just smart leadership..as for the league of loosers remark , is just having fun after defeating an enemy, its not a big rant explaining how the top alliance isnt good like some other people are doing in this forum
 
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I have to admit we did try to recruit a couple of them ;) as they was on our door step,
infact I share an island with 2 of them, my charm and charisma did not work, 1 didnt even bother replying and the other was rude to say the least,
 

DeletedUser345

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ok achilles i joined from lol before they were even at war with any one, it was early in the game , They wand i seen that night fall was more suited for me so i left not because of loyalty issues its because where i wanted to be ,, me and lol's leader are still friends and theres no hard feelings, but thanks for bring up something that has nothing to do with what we are talking about...that fact that you bring up my personal stats shows a lack of maturity,,,well we havnt invited hundreds of people for one (we dont even have 200 members) and your first and second point are pretty much the same ,,

and for your last remark snobbishly correcting my spelling , yet another sign of being very childish and immature

LoL weren't at war with anyone when you joined Night Fall?

  • 4 January - The Only BUZzER issues declaration of war upon LoL by 4 alliances including Night Fall.
  • 6 January - Addysaynuttin posts first stats so war is definitely under way despite it being 'early in the game' as you say.
  • 7 January - You join Night Fall.

You are either ignorant of your own alliance's diplomacy or just lied.

Maturity? People only bring up maturity when i've roasted their chestnuts over a hot fire and they don't have anything i their arguments to fall back on. As for the fact that you say bringing up your personal stats was immature and not relevant i care to disagree on both accounts. How is it immature? Then also how is not relevant? You are a perfect example of the laissez-faire attitude in which Night Fall have recruited, perfectly relevant.

Actually I'd like to disagree on your next point because the thing is you have invited hundreds of people because your membership is over 100. "We don't even have 200 members" - not sure how this is relevant or where you got this number from, only one alliance has 200 members and as a matter of fact you have the third highest member count in the world.

Childish and immature to correct one's grammar? Show me a child who does do that? Although it is not entirely within the forum rules it makes you look stupid and further weakens any arguments you may present hence it being useful as a propaganda tool, nothing to do with immaturity.

Next.
 

DeletedUser38223

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"LoL weren't at war with anyone when you joined Night Fall?

4 January - The Only BUZzER issues declaration of war upon LoL by 4 alliances including Night Fall.
6 January - Addysaynuttin posts first stats so war is definitely under way despite it being 'early in the game' as you say.
7 January - You join Night Fall."
when i was in lol it did not seem like we were at war with anyone , some players were being farmed and some of our players were farming other alliances but i wouldnt classify it as a war,,they were not flagged red and when i joined night fall they also didnt have lol flagged red

"Actually I'd like to disagree on your next point because the thing is you have invited hundreds of people because your membership is over 100. "We don't even have 200 members" - not sure how this is relevant or where you got this number from, only one alliance has 200 members and as a matter of fact you have the third highest member count in the world." when i here hundreds i think of 200+

"Childish and immature to correct one's grammar? Show me a child who does do that?" I think anyone who read this would think you were being childish ' *Write (sorry iced I just needed to help the fellow understand the language better). i doubt helping me understand the language better was your modivation behind saying that

and the discussion that me and graeme were having was about chest beating and the quality of night fall as an alliance and then you commented on that particular discussion and started going on about my loyalty and my stats which was irrelevant and uncalled for..

I said
"maybe not elite , but still by far the best in every area that's relevant are average points per player is way above the next in line , we have the most city take overs, and are abp is more then double 2nd place and almost 4 times the amount of other respectable alliances,,,for people saying we are a mra look at the thread that explains what an mra is and you will find that we dont fit the bill"

and you replied with a personal attack which i think many people would define as immature

"First off let me congratulate you on your intense loyalty, I saw you were one of the members to join from LoL the whipping boys, was your leader correct in saying you'd lost 90% of your troops. Secondly may i congratulate you in your recent colonization, very pro. ABP only 15 places above mine which is very poor. Also off on a limb in ocean 54, not too far away but still not a big enough scoop to warrant an invite from such an 'elite' alliance. I think your recruitment in itself proves a point."
 

DeletedUser345

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"Childish and immature to correct one's grammar? Show me a child who does do that?" I think anyone who read this would think you were being childish ' *Write (sorry iced I just needed to help the fellow understand the language better). i doubt helping me understand the language better was your modivation behind saying that

I think I explained my real reasons already...

As for the rest of your post and all your comments I couldn't actually pick out any tangible responses.
 

DeletedUser38223

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....the moral of the story is instead of participating in our discussion which was about night falls abp point average , and city take over you choose to point out one player and discredit that one player , which was irrelevent
 

DeletedUser345

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....the moral of the story is instead of participating in our discussion which was about night falls abp point average , and city take over you choose to point out one player and discredit that one player , which was irrelevent

Moral? Do you have any clue what you are on about? You first responded to my post in response to addysaynuttin and did you not expect me to reply back to you? My conversation to you had nothing to do with your conversation to do with graeme we were having a totally sperate conversation hence why I never quoted parts from you and graeme's conversation. It seems to me like i've completely broken down any arguement you ever had and as a response your weakly attempting to suggest i was interrupting your totally different conversation.
 

DeletedUser38223

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lol i wasnt responding to you when i said that post i was saying it in general to everyone bashing nf the only thing that was for you was the very last sentence , and you were responding to my post that talked about night fall as a whole then why did you start the personal attacks? ....its like talking to a 2 year old
 

DeletedUser27700

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This is getting a little 2 sided, take it to private channels. Unless you are each a top 12 alliance :p
 

DeletedUser345

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This is getting a little 2 sided, take it to private channels. Unless you are each a top 12 alliance :p

Well iced I know i'm good but stop with the compliments already. ;)
 
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DeletedUser345

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I think its time that you and I arranged a heart to heart I finally did one these.
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1. Night Fall - Obviously the big alliance of the world right now, well clear on points and abp (although it helps having 250 members). They have a very nice average points per member - although not the best. That would all point to them being an extremely elite alliance however at the same time... 252 members? However is the recruiter should get fired, that's obscene. As I have well said before Night Fall's tactics seem to be recruit other alliances best players rather than conquer them and that has lead them to form a massive whale of an alliance which goes across the entire map with members isolated... in my minds you can't defend that and if I was a player in a position like that I would go and find myself a better alliance. Sure they have some very good players but they also have a lot of dead weight. Some members of NF i wouldn't even accept, less than 2000 points? It is not just these small players who are useless some of there larger players are just simmers, reminds me of a report I saw today where a 25-30k player of NF sent unescorted transports. They are still the alliance to beat but in my mind they have lost there sense of purpose and why they were initially set up - as a very small compact elite alliance.

7/10

2. The 13th Legion - A good alliance this, definitely the challenger to Night Fall, I am saddened by the fact Redwood Originals chose the wrong side, would have been far more interesting if they'd gone against Night Fall. A nice average points per member stat, coming with a far smaller member count than the other two top three alliances. A bit of dead weight which should be shifted by nothing in comparison to Night Fall. There abp isn't brilliant however (adding in Ravenclaw's as well) and i think that needs a bit of work. Overall a good alliance who in the end will either merge with Night Fall or throw it down.

8/10

3. The Sacred Order - An alliance which would have been branded an MRA at the start of the world however I think they've done rather well. They've managed to pick up a nice abp ranking and some good players, if they shifted some dead weight could become a good alliance.

6/10

4. Idalium Federation - Brother to my own alliance so I won't judge an opinion however we're a lot better organised than most alliances assume.

5. Swine Veterans - An average average points per member score for a rim alliance however they're sitting nicely in the rankings and they are very compact in a rim ocean, if they sit tight and continue to grow and take things one step at a time could become a force.

6/10

6. MANOWAR - Poor alliance, low average points and very spread out, will not last. Also never respect an alliance which has its name in CAPS LOCK.

3/10

7. Romanian Fighters - Same as MANOWAR except instead of the caps lock they've manage to get docked marks because they're worst member is there only founder and when he invariably quits they will fall apart. Also I swear there is always a Romanian alliance on every world?

2/10

8. Acta Non Verba - Same as Swine Veterans but with a lower member count.

6/10

9-12. A number of poor alliances.

Alliance of the Gods - 3/10
SEAL TEAM 6 - 2/10
FAITH JOKERS - 2/10
Byzantium Warriors - 1/10

13. Dark of Day - Very good average points, some experienced players however they are beginning to recruit slightly too much. Bit spread out on the map and they get docked marks for allowing kyleli in.

8/10
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I'll stop there, no alliance earns green marks - maybe next time I rate.
 
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