Top 12 Swim orr Sinkk

Sorry, couldn't hear you over the sound of your own internal conquests. I'll just be here continuing to take LOTR/BINGO towns.

Also you talk a lot for a guy who moved an entire alliance branch two oceans away from us.
U wot?
You really do like beating your own meat huh?
Ok lets recap Serpant decided to switch sides after lengthy talks with you so the ronin ally was disbanded.
Since darkside decided to collapse as well we took in the players that were willing and renamed them True ronin.
No ally ran away from you and for sure no one ran 2 different oceans.
And to my knowledge no one is spamming you guys so unless you can shows proof of said spam im going to throw it in the "we are oh so important please notice us" bag.
 
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U wot?
You really do like beating your own meat huh?
Ok lets recap Serpant decided to switch sides after lengthy talks with you so the ronin ally was disbanded.
Since darkside decided to collapse as well we took in the players that were willing and renamed them True ronin.
No ally ran away from you and for sure no one ran 2 different oceans.
And to my knowledge no one is spamming you guys so unless you can shows proof of said spam im going to throw it in the "we are oh so important please notice us" bag
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Big yikes. Okay lets go through this.

1) Little weird you're focusing in on me and my meat. But hey whatever floats your boat.

2) Yeah about that...Me and Serpant spent most the fight trash talking each other. Then he realized you guys were trash. Ditched you. It was pretty spur of the moment.

3) Right moved away from us after we collapsed the original Ronin...then made another Ronin lol. I like the salty profile and name btw. Nothing says you don't care quite like that.

4) Really? You guys sure have high tailed out of 64. Let us come right into O54 so far too.

5) I forwarded to witchhunter. No reply. Short answer is Shuri spamming Plow. I'm sure Plow would be happy to oblige if you wanna go for proof. I'll even give you the span of a day to do so and get something done.

I think that you think we care about your opinion more than we actually care. Your view on us is 100% irrelevant. Its pretty simple, you have cities we want. We take those cities usually effortlessly. At 55-0 with another 4 on the way, you can keep calling us irrelevant until you're blue in the face.

Anyways enjoy losing cities to HOP. As always, we'll keep taking LOTR towns.
 
Because nobody else could be bothered.....

1) MRA Coalition-
A mix of great and terrible players. But when they own 5 of the top 15 alliances, they can afford to lose towns. Which is good because they are. FLOAT...But win.

2) LOTR Family- Based on my experience with them, I'm surprised they made it this long. I think that I can honestly say that this is the worst alliance I've fought in years. But now their branches are falling off and they don't really have anywhere to go. I don't think they control their own destiny anymore. FLOAT but rapid SINK...

3) House of Pain-
I also think they're sort of out of control of their own destiny in terms of WW but they're in way better shape than LOTR. They don't appear to be swinging for a pact. Not sure they'd want to spoil and otherwise productive rebuilding world and absorb LOTR when/if it collapses. It'd trade player count/points for mass city losses. My bet is they play with the hand dealt take the war victories they have, and continue to rebuild. SWIM.

4) Cry Havoc-
Still maintain that they're the best fighting alliance in the world. They do have control of their wonder destiny. They could reach out to HOP and will likely be absorbing DI over time. But their main power comes from the fact that they could steamroll through the MRA branches over the next few months and appear to be starting to do that. SWIM.

5) Destructive Influence-
Gradually fading away at this point. SINK.

6) The Skeleton Crew-
Looks pretty decent. SWIM.

7) The Booty Warrior Cult-
When you go to prison the most important thing in your life is going to be booty. ?

8) Divine Regiment-
They have a couple of my friends. They exist. That's all I know about them. FLOAT.

9) Assassins Order-
They're still around? SINK.

10) Knights of the Bloodoath-
A team in O64. SINK.

11) FIENNIX-
Pretty much already dead. SUNK.

12) Last Stand Brigade-
No clue who they are.

This is probably the last time I'll do a full top 12. There just aren't 12 relevant teams here.
 
When you were making your top 12 in byblos, how long were you calling for our sink lol. 4 months? Maybe even longer. Your alliance wasnt relevant back then and youre not even now.
Question 1: What happened to LOTR in Byblos? If you sink in 1 day or in 1 year it makes no difference...you still sunk. Either way its bound to happen. Especially with Witch chucking bireme escorted CSes at us.

Question 2: Who even are you?

As for the relevant comment. I've said it before and will continue to say it. At now 73-0, your view on if we're relevant or not doesn't really matter. You just keep doing you and we'll keep taking your team's cities. :)
 

GrepoMeta

Hipparchus
4) Cry Havoc- Still maintain that they're the best fighting alliance in the world.
LOL wat. Their own members are bored from simming so much, had more than one PM. If they aren't spamming what is coming out of their queue when their OLU is cleared every night then they are boosting their own BP on each other for more founding slots
 
LOL wat. Their own members are bored from simming so much, had more than one PM. If they aren't spamming what is coming out of their queue when their OLU is cleared every night then they are boosting their own BP on each other for more founding slots
Based on their gains to loss ratio and wars, I still believe they're the best. Now that DI has died though and Pandas can move in. We'll see if this holds up. :)
 

GrepoMeta

Hipparchus
Based on their gains to loss ratio and wars, I still believe they're the best. Now that DI has died though and Pandas can move in. We'll see if this holds up. :)
??? If we're going by gains to loss ratios (which I don't like doing anyway, it's about the equivalent of possession stats in football), name me one impressive stat? They beat the mighty Black Widows and Phoenix. I hope Pandas move in, someone has to because CH are just sat doing nothing, they don't even have a 'frontline'. They are just in this strict boxed blob in South 55 where no one is remotely interested in expanding, They remind me of the kids that work really hard and revise every waking hour of the day when they get home from school and still fail their exams. If WW started tomorrow they would have a good chance of winning, but best fighting alliance in the world? Absolutely not, like mistaking my Shih Tzu for a Lion. I should shut my mouth though because they are the source of about 80% of my ABP
 

Edwardicus III

Strategos
??? If we're going by gains to loss ratios (which I don't like doing anyway, it's about the equivalent of possession stats in football), name me one impressive stat? They beat the mighty Black Widows and Phoenix. I hope Pandas move in, someone has to because CH are just sat doing nothing, they don't even have a 'frontline'. They are just in this strict boxed blob in South 55 where no one is remotely interested in expanding, They remind me of the kids that work really hard and revise every waking hour of the day when they get home from school and still fail their exams. If WW started tomorrow they would have a good chance of winning, but best fighting alliance in the world? Absolutely not, like mistaking my Shih Tzu for a Lion. I should shut my mouth though because they are the source of about 80% of my ABP
So I guess it raises the question of what is the game being played for? I don't see why we insult people who play to win and praise people who play for fun aka "Hug nobody and fight everybody" teams. Everyone plays differently, seems weird to knock a team for playing with the literal endgame in mind.
 

GrepoMeta

Hipparchus
So I guess it raises the question of what is the game being played for? I don't see why we insult people who play to win and praise people who play for fun aka "Hug nobody and fight everybody" teams. Everyone plays differently, seems weird to knock a team for playing with the literal endgame in mind.
The quote I am disputing is "Still maintain that they're the best fighting alliance in the world." They can do whatever they want but I don't understand where this reputation of being big brutish fighters has come from
 
@GrepoMeta Okay if they suck why are they 19-1 vs LOTR? Why aren't LOTR taking their cities? .

I'm not denying they have some bad players, I've fought some of them before. You don't gotta sell me on it. But if we're going off of people who don't use the alarm and just give up BP, then I hate to say it but CH would probably still be at or near the top...Speaking from having fought all the other relevant groups except Pandas either in this world or in previous worlds. A lot of these teams have major holes in them.

But hey I won't argue with using your logic behind who's best...mostly because going off that logic should put TBWC at the top. And my ego could use the boost. ;)
 

GrepoMeta

Hipparchus
@GrepoMeta Okay if they suck why are they 19-1 vs LOTR? Why aren't LOTR taking their cities? .

I'm not denying they have some bad players, I've fought some of them before. You don't gotta sell me on it. But if we're going off of people who don't use the alarm and just give up BP, then I hate to say it but CH would probably still be at or near the top...Speaking from having fought all the other relevant groups except Pandas either in this world or in previous worlds. A lot of these teams have major holes in them.

But hey I won't argue with using your logic behind who's best...mostly because going off that logic should put TBWC at the top. And my ego could use the boost. ;)
Yeah I knew you were gonna bring that up. 55 is a wasteland though - a BP playground - and it has been since FF disbanded. I've been in a bad position ever since and I'm pretty much insignificant to anything major actually going on in any alliance lol. It's pretty much just myself and a small handful of other LOTR cities around CH area. So yeah, CH have taken LOTR cities in their own core. So well done to them I guess? I'm not gonna solo support a 100 morale siege against one of their members when 1) Why would we expand down there, I want to move away from that area not towards it so I can actually help my alliance out, and 2) They are stacked up on myths because they've never used them to break anything, at least not from us (and there's no one else but a handful of Panda cities around).

I can agree on the major hole thing, but that's CH included

I literally don't know a thing about what is going on with you guys, I'm too far away from HoP let alone TBWC
 

Edwardicus III

Strategos
The quote I am disputing is "Still maintain that they're the best fighting alliance in the world." They can do whatever they want but I don't understand where this reputation of being big brutish fighters has come from
Ah Understood, I thought you were trash talking the way they were playing. Was gonna say I have no problems with core'ing up the way they are, especially because they're not hugging it seems like, but I understand disputing the best fighters in the world claim