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I've come late to the thread, but I wish to say something of the old VRoK and it's outward show of convenient pact shifts in the early days of Kappa lest VRoK and Siraj the Viking, the chief decision-maker, be thought of as Machiavellian beasts. I can't speak to the issues that saintchill brings up, as I did not witness them since they happened during my inactive spell, and I won't speak any ill of VRoD's current leadership, whom I respect (and honestly, who knows Dragot and doesn't at least respect his prowess, in-game and here in the forums) and will not speak ill of while I am in their alliance.
In the early days of Kappa, when VRoK shifted its pacts quite often, the world's political landscape was nearly whole-heartedly shaped by BS and the concern/disdain the louder elitists in that group roused in Kappa's denizens (not saying anymore on that--it's very well documented here in the forums, and I said what I needed to say about that then). They were a threat, and the best of the other alliances were banding together to deal with them. Siraj the Viking only ever truly trusted one of those alliances, and that was The Deli. In the others, he always watched for signs of BS's influence on them. (It was widely believed that BS had insiders in several alliances and spies galore, so it was a legitimate concern.) Having been thwarted by spies in previous servers, Siraj was a touch over-zealous in his actions dealing with perceived threats (and I suspect he was right most of the time), but he never cancelled a pact solely with the intent of conquering a pact to bolster the alliance's power. Any time he cancelled a pact, it was because he perceived a threat.
Cronus's hate of VRoK/VRoD stems from his interactions with Siraj over a claimed city and the military actions that insued over it. He and Siraj both blew up, and I had to attempt--failingly, I might add--to moderate the dispute, which was filled with hot words from both parties. I failed, and there was war between the alliances, who before were pact partners from nearly the start of Kappa. Cronus can back me up on this, as the bulk of the pms pertaining to the matter were exchanged between him and me. I doubt I helped much, as I was ready to throttle both him and Siraj at the time for what I perceived to be a wholly avoidable debacle.
The point being that VRoK was not acting opportunistically like snakes, though I'm certain that was the appearance. Perhaps threats were perceived where there were none, but I cannot say. I merely state this to defend a dear friend who acted on the belief that it's better to be paranoid than to wind up face down in a ditch. Perhaps that doesn't excuse his actions, some of which I argued against in the council (particularly the dispute that resulted in war with...Dynamis, I think the alliance was called at the time).
Under Srains, we had no such issues, but BS was gone by then, the world was not so young and volatile, and by then, the alliance had a firm roster of people who had proven themselves trustworthy.
As to the more current things, I cannot and will not speak on them, as I don't know the details, and I won't speak ill of either saintchill or VRoD.
If I got any of that history wrong or left out anything vital, sue me. That was months ago.
In the early days of Kappa, when VRoK shifted its pacts quite often, the world's political landscape was nearly whole-heartedly shaped by BS and the concern/disdain the louder elitists in that group roused in Kappa's denizens (not saying anymore on that--it's very well documented here in the forums, and I said what I needed to say about that then). They were a threat, and the best of the other alliances were banding together to deal with them. Siraj the Viking only ever truly trusted one of those alliances, and that was The Deli. In the others, he always watched for signs of BS's influence on them. (It was widely believed that BS had insiders in several alliances and spies galore, so it was a legitimate concern.) Having been thwarted by spies in previous servers, Siraj was a touch over-zealous in his actions dealing with perceived threats (and I suspect he was right most of the time), but he never cancelled a pact solely with the intent of conquering a pact to bolster the alliance's power. Any time he cancelled a pact, it was because he perceived a threat.
Cronus's hate of VRoK/VRoD stems from his interactions with Siraj over a claimed city and the military actions that insued over it. He and Siraj both blew up, and I had to attempt--failingly, I might add--to moderate the dispute, which was filled with hot words from both parties. I failed, and there was war between the alliances, who before were pact partners from nearly the start of Kappa. Cronus can back me up on this, as the bulk of the pms pertaining to the matter were exchanged between him and me. I doubt I helped much, as I was ready to throttle both him and Siraj at the time for what I perceived to be a wholly avoidable debacle.
The point being that VRoK was not acting opportunistically like snakes, though I'm certain that was the appearance. Perhaps threats were perceived where there were none, but I cannot say. I merely state this to defend a dear friend who acted on the belief that it's better to be paranoid than to wind up face down in a ditch. Perhaps that doesn't excuse his actions, some of which I argued against in the council (particularly the dispute that resulted in war with...Dynamis, I think the alliance was called at the time).
Under Srains, we had no such issues, but BS was gone by then, the world was not so young and volatile, and by then, the alliance had a firm roster of people who had proven themselves trustworthy.
As to the more current things, I cannot and will not speak on them, as I don't know the details, and I won't speak ill of either saintchill or VRoD.
If I got any of that history wrong or left out anything vital, sue me. That was months ago.
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