Paros – North perspective
Hello all!
This will be a history of Paros world as seen and discussed by me (Greatwerewolf). It is my own view and the one of my friends and if anyone disagree with it feel free to say so but mostly what I’m going to tell is truth and will be written as how it happened.
So to start with let’s say that me and a group of friends (9-12 members from world Helorus) all joined Paros at the same time and were located in SE corner of O53 and named our alliance S.M.T. (snapping monster turtles .. long story .. coming from 3 different worlds). Our first few weeks were peaceful as we made some pacts (including Erys and Grim Reaper I think they were). We grew in points and members and soon became second the biggest alliance in 053 (with only Erys being bigger). Than war with League of Delos started. Erys cried for help as they were getting hammered and we helped. We defended their cities, attacked LoD let’s just say we were even with them in gained and lost cities. Grim Reapers had more luck (or skill) with LoD as they were viewed as the most dangerous of the 3. Then Erys decided to start running (actually asked us to defend their cities while they will be building base in O63) and we did it. Now we were the primary target of LoD but held our own for a month or so and in the meantime Erys was talking with other alliances and naming us (S.M.T) as almost their academy. At that time Grim Reapers disbanded and some members moved to SMT and from there to Phoenix, some to Erys and from there to BL (Black Legion). Well back to us. S.M.T. didn’t like how Erys was viewing us and we told them so (oh I should probably mention that we had all our forums shared as were thinking of a full merge but due to Ra-Ceren (leader of Erys) being as bossy as he was we eventually broke pact with Erys and made one with LoD). Making a pact with LoD has proven a good decision and we pushed Erys out of O53 (mostly) and were chasing them in O63. Than a power grab happened in LoD and seeing this we in S.M.T. decided to merge with the remaining LoD peeps (sadly a lot of those were either red or in VM).
Now off to Erys perspective!
The Erys perspective (told by disbeme)
Yep, so that’s the SMT perspective. Now, I came into Paros about a week or two after it started. Within a week I became leader of an alliance called the Achaeminid somethingrather, can’t remember their name. I supervised the merge of the alliance into Erys, which I believe was the normal thing, Erys was sucking in smaller alliances by the dozen. Once the whole alliance was in Erysian Guard, the academy alliance, things were looking quite good. Erys was flourishing. We took many cities off other players. I moved up into Erys somewhere here. We had a spot of trouble with some alliances, such as SMT and LoD every now and then, but those tended to be isolated and unrelated cases. We had a huge amount of trouble with Truculence. I had an excellent friend who kept me safe from them, luckily. Then came the big change. I wasn’t very high up in Erys at that point and my memory must be terrible, but basically there was a fast change for the worse. LoD was giving us a kicking. SMT came out of nowhere and hit straight into the heart of O53. They had actually started there, as I remember, just one island away from me which was pretty scary. Their largest players had grouped on one island and were taking over others. Erys decided to run to 063 and O64. I didn’t come. I thought it was stupid to run, when they would still be able to catch us. As many players lost responsibility, I gained it and came closer to diplomacy with Ra-Ceren. We negotiated with LoD and they sent many of Erys invitations. Some players accepted them. The invitations were then rescinded. When LoD started efficiently moving against us from the west, it was nearly game over for me. One of the strongest players, Zhule the Bear managed to take one of my cities, though he needed a lot of work. At that point I gave up on getting help from Erys. I contacted Monord, leader of LoD for an invite. I was immediately let in. Erys had more or less completed their move to 063 and O64, and held only some border cities and a couple in 53, mostly on rock islands.
The LoD/Phoenix perspective (Justin talking)
(This starts a bit later as we don’t have earlier view … might be added later.) Myself and Monord discussed what to do about the constant spy bombing and revolt attacks by 2 truculence members in particular, these attacks had suddenly become a daily occurrence, it was decided we should hit back and I was instructed to declare on Truculece as Monord had RL issues, I have not seen him since that day
BL were kept up to date with what was going on in LoD by way of the shared forum tab by myself, nobody with any say in what was going on in LoD ever contacted any BL member on skype, but I know who you are talking about and they eventually made a power grab and split the alliance appart, but not until after BL had poached most of the top players from LoD, I was acyually talking to a BL diplomat and was informed that the pact LoD believed it had with BL was actually viewed by them as more of a nap, I was then informed that BL would be inviting LoD members to join them (I already had the invite before I was told it would happen) I posted that any LoD member with an invite should make their own mind up and do what was right for them, then the power grab took place and I decided to bring forward the plan to merge LoD and SMT into one cohesive alliance and Phoenix was created
I was talking to BL about a nap with phoenix but it was never offered, their stand seemed to be we should merge into their academy (anonymous) I was also informed they had a nap with truculence and would not help us against them, truculence switched focus to Phoenix because the person from LoD who declared war on them (ME) was now in there, and they gave us one hell of a hammering proving that the expected support from a pacted alliance (not BL) would not be forthcoming, at this time a close family member was taken into hospital and eventually passed away at which point I had to hit VM, I told my guys to find a solution with BL that would suit us remembering that most of the guys in phoenix either weren't invited during BL's first grab of LoD members, or had stayed due to friends not being invited
Now it gets a bit cloudy as I was in VM and not entirely aware of what happened, but it seems truc decided we were not an issue and contacted somebody in phoenix about peace, a cease fire was called and phoenix were now talking to BL and truc, I have been told that during discussions with BL our guys felt they were being given a join us or else ultimatum, truc offered a much better deal and our guys took that option, so far it has proven to be a wise choice as players who wanted to stay together have, and they have not been forced into an academy as an after thought
(Greatwerewolf talking)
After WK went in VM Justin and other leaders continued to talk to BL about possible NAP or even pact. I myself have never talked to them in game ... only on skype to some (those some were ex-lod). However i knew how talks were going as i was being forwarded all the msgs. The reason for me not to step in those talks was because LoD had closer contacts with BL than S.M.T. so i left it to them. However those talks did not go well as all we got was unofficial spoken NAP. Also we were warning BL about what happens if Truculence gains ground in O53 ... getting sandwiched in never a good thing for alliance no matter how strong it is. Well BL didnt listen or if it did payed no heed to our warnings. Than truculence started hammering us and yeah i must say that we were crushed by sheer weight of attacks (and our laps in defending - instead of sniping attacks and CS we defended everything so this is our mistake). Anyway we got some symbolic support from BL ... but that was all (like 3 transports from one player ... nothing).
Anyway i got a bit too far from what i intended to say. Members were leaving for BL all the time ... strongest members ofc. Plus we had some dealing with our inactives as they listed their cities but did not provide info if they got attacked .. so truc gained more ground on us. At the end when we still believed that BL will help us we put our inactives forward for them to take. Also we did have some claims on their cities but BL didnt give a damn about that and took all of those cities .. greedy as it was. Than we got contacted by Truc about ceasfire and pact and we were glad to accept it because the conditions they put were just too good and i hope this stays the same.
Also i forgot to mention one thing ... Sereton as he put it in another thread somewhere here in externals wanted to give us some cities ... but BL took them all. (anyway this discussion is being held elsewhere and i dont want to start it here again).
So this was seen and was BL backstabbing us (Phoenix). The pact with Truc showed how good it was because as soon as we got pacted with them BL started attacks on us (mind it we were really weakened because Truc has been hammering us for a good month). Truc hold true to their word and was sending us much needed support. But constant war took its toll on some people and many left. BL was sadly really good at sniffing those out and we slowly lost O43 and some of BL guys started moving in O53 (strongest foothold from S.M.T.). Here some real fight were fought as we were still being hammered … only from other guys now. Due to that many players leaving BL eventually gained a foothold in O53 and this ocean wasnt safe anymore. In Phoenix we decided to start moving towards O63 as it was viewed as safer area (Erys wasnt a big deal … what attacks they sent were without escort or had swords/archers in them). We gained some ground in southern O63 and Truc along with few of us cleared O64 from all Erys. Than a merger was proposed. Phoenix agreed and Truculence started sending invites. Some of our core members from Phoenix stayed in there to run it as academy and it was working. But what we saw was that Truculence was heaving even bigger issue with ghosting/internals. BL was gaining ground on us mainly because of those internals. Than ex Foofies ghosted all at the same time. This screwed Truculence up so hard that there was no way back. Even more people started leaving, we had so many internals that there was no way of organizing an op. Than Truculence thought of regrouping and creating a new alliance with all dead weight left behind. There they split into 2 groups due to a rift in leadership. Mods tea party had only a few players (really good ones) left and eventually they quit this world. The second alliance where most of ex-truculence was running quite ok untill several key players went to VM. Than one of Truculence leaders came on a stupid idea of changing alliance name to Chickens and Porn. Because of this all founders were given attackable bans and lost several cities.
It is here where i should mention Dutcheplato (founder of Chickens and Porn). He was in VM when that name was changed, got attackable ban and lost several cities. He complained to mods but as we got to know the mod running this world was friend with Sasukepran (other mod playing on Paros) and our complaints didnt bring us anywhere. As i got to know at the same time Zama from Victores got banned too (i think it was permaban?). This brought morale really down and even more people quit.
Later Victores proposed a merger and we didnt have any other option we did it. Truculence guys (what was left of them anyway) merged into Victores, and Phoenix was slowly closed down (in the last month before WW).
I forgot to mention a turning point in game when Venom 2.0 merged with Black legion and created Black venom and Black Venom Bastards which was their academy (or sister alliance). They did this merger even before Truculence was merged into Victores and had some great ops on all of us.
Well back to the Victores. Here i do not know a lot as i was a mere member (while i always held some function in other alliances). All i can say is that even here there were problems with internals, BV were running ops on us and for a change Victores run some on them too. But during the last stage (WW) Victores got betrayed but several guys who should be noted as not trustworthy. Those players are WolferWG, Vapor300 and velcos. Needless to say BV is winning Paros … already has 4 WW built and Victores have no chance of preventing them building all 7 of them.
That is all fellow players of grepolis. Hope you will have more luck in your worlds than i did in mine.
Regards GW.
p.s.: sorry for spelling mistakes