What's that fishy odour? hmm?

Robbyn44

Phrourach
I very much doubt anyone did. Check his cities... out of 81 cities he has, 56 are founded, meaning colonies, not conquests.

On a serious note, we in SI/Cerbs noticed his unbelievable record quite some time ago. And it doesn't smell fishy, but rather obviously fraudulent. Check his hourly activity on grepointel and you will see that he always is gaining ABP around same time he is gaining DBP. Meaning he is manufacturing BPs by attacking his own troops and then kills the troops that survived. As far as I got it, he first attack his own troops he sent in an inactive city, gains massive ABPs and then suicides the surviving troops attacking with unescorted transports some biremes he sent in an empty inactive city as well. Lame and dishonest, but not illegal as far as I know. Of course, unless he is not using some other illegal methods, but this I wouldn't know...

On the other hand, to see this guy leading the defenders rankings by quite a margin and being 4th in ABP rankings (and probably very soon first if he is allowed to continue with his tricks) is a very bad joke. Innogames and the mods should find ways to prevent this kind of abuse.

For corroboration, check his conquests page on grepostats as well:

http://www.grepostats.com/world/en54/player/3947740/colonizations?page=0
 
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TrueLie

Guest
Why not? I think it's fair enough. It's his own troops and he can do whatever he wants with it.
Don't be jealous Robbyn.
I understand you are worried about your BP ranking, but you should be thinking more about your alliance, than your own BP ranking, since i see you are one of the founders of SpaceInvaders?
 

jonorocks1

Guest
Hmm this tactic has been around forever, i remember in Athens a guy got to 30k ABP before anyone else had 10k.... We figured out he was constantly building CS's and suiciding them on his own troops :p

First time i have seen such a tactic used to such a large extent though.
 

Robbyn44

Phrourach
Why not? I think it's fair enough. It's his own troops and he can do whatever he wants with it.
Don't be jealous Robbyn.
I understand you are worried about your BP ranking, but you should be thinking more about your alliance, than your own BP ranking, since i see you are one of the founders of SpaceInvaders?
This is in no way about me or my rankings or about SI for that matter, but about everyone that is actually working for his stats. Of course, the fact that you endorse such schemes comes as no surprise at all. Your love for underhanded and misleading tactics is obvious....

@jonorocks: It might be an old tactic, but this doesn't make it right. That's why I think Inno should find a way to prevent this kind of abuse.
 
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Red Heaven

Guest
First time I hear about this tactic.. I thought when you attacks your own support you don't get BP.. I prefer my BP from real fight :)
 

Robbyn44

Phrourach
I am sure every honest player prefers the real BPs. And Red Heaven, unfortunately, if one is hitting his own support in someone else's city he is awarded BPs. I think the solution should be exactly this: if you hit your own support, no matter where, you should be awarded no BPs. This would prevent any abuse of this kind.
 

Red Heaven

Guest
I am sure every honest player prefers the real BPs. And Red Heaven, unfortunately, if one is hitting his own support in someone else's city he is awarded BPs. I think the solution should be exactly this: if you hit your own support, no matter where, you should be awarded no BPs. This would prevent any abuse of this kind.
I have the same opinion.. besides, what is a pleasure? Hit your own support? Echhh.. strange people.. I rather stop playing than play like this
 

TrueLie

Guest
At first, I'm player from your sister alliance. Shame for you, that you don't know me.
And why do you care about BP either?
 
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TrueLie

Guest
Why are you so serious? Let's put a smile on your face?

Nobody is believe you. na-na-na-na-na
 

Frankinium

Guest
i agree, shouldn't be aloud to gain BP from yourself, in my opinion it's not that far off multi-accounting in a sense, only thing i use the "tactic" for is to kill off trans or troops.

i'd call that exploiting gaining BP much faster, more cities slots/cities which equal an unfair advantage...... lucky for the guys down that way he seems pretty rubbish lol
 

Robbyn44

Phrourach
Why are you so serious? Let's put a smile on your face?

Nobody is believe you. na-na-na-na-na
This is all you could come up with? na-na-na-na-na??? :D How old are you? 12?

There is something called the burden of proof. You know what this means? That the burden of proof is on you, not on me. And there are enough people that not only believe, but in fact they really know I am telling the truth. And really, do you think honest people would rather believe you?

PS: I see you are still very much afraid or ashamed to disclose your ingame name... :p
 
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Frankinium

Guest
these threads always end up in disputes lol its worse than facebook lol
 
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Stirlo

Phrourach
First time I hear about this tactic.. I thought when you attacks your own support you don't get BP.. I prefer my BP from real fight :)
This should be the only option. I've known about this and suspected quite a few players of using this for BP ( albeit never on this scale ) plus of course the friendly fire options. After all in normal circumstances why would you ever attack your own support. Its an exploit being used for massive gains in terms of CP so should be banned. I'd be more inclined to be a bit peev'd if a player in my alliance was up to this sort of shannigans rather than being part of the team. I suspect we'd have eaten him by now if he were in HARPOON.
 

Lane

Guest
Hello Guys ~

Please be aware that attacking your support to gain BP is in fact allowed and is NOT an exploitation of a bug.

Thank you,
Lane
 

Robbyn44

Phrourach
Exploiting Bugs
Exploiting bugs in the game for advantages over other players is not allowed. The rules state:
§5) Bugs

It is against the rules to use game bugs to advance in the game. This is punishable by ban. If you find a critical bug it is your duty as a player to report it.
A bug is defined as an error, mistake, or flaw in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways that the developer did not intend. Examples of exploiting a bug include having hundreds of extra free population available and using it to send attacks that are bigger than normally possible, or using the devine envoy to to gain instant favor. Any bugs with these types of large disadvantages should be reported to the support system and not exploited.

If you find something new that is very useful, check the changelog in Announcements to see if it is an announced feature. If it is not there it may be a bug and a support ticket should be sent in and confirmed with a mod if its a bug. Only after a mod confirms its not a bug you will be allowed to use the new feature.

If you feel another player is exploiting a bug please send in a support ticket and a moderator will check it out.
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Reading the above post I have to say that I don't think Lane's opinion is right. If the developers would have intended to allow one player to gain BPs by attacking his own troops, then they would have allowed the said player to do it by attacking his own cities too. But in fact, when attacking his own city, one do not harm his own troops at all and gains no BPs at all. So it seems to me that developers had no intention to allow BP gaining by attacking your own troops. The fact that this is still possible by using a city owned by someone else for support and attack seems to me to be an exploitation of a bug.
 
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TrueLie

Guest
This is all you could come up with? na-na-na-na-na??? :D How old are you? 12?

There is something called the burden of proof. You know what this means? That the burden of proof is on you, not on me. And there are enough people that not only believe, but in fact they really know I am telling the truth. And really, do you think honest people would rather believe you?

PS: I see you are still very much afraid or ashamed to disclose your ingame name... :p
I will disclose my name but little later, in 1-2 months maybe, depends of in-game situation.

Yep I'm under 18.
And how old are you?
44 years? Well congratulations! You have some really important achievements! To be ranked #1 in video game. LOL

You are the man, for sure!
 
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Robbyn44

Phrourach
My post was about achieving something, no matter what, in honesty and playing by the rules, something you seem unable to grasp. The fact that you keep trying to turn the discussion to my stats and my rank only shows that you have an obsession with this, not me. If you want to have a real contribution to the subject of this thread, please post your opinion and your arguments about it on this thread. If you just want to try to attack me, please just open a new thread about how bad I suck or something.

PS: the fact that you are still hiding under a false name doesn't help your cause at all. It only shows you don't really have the guts to assume responsibility for what you are writing. Meaning that you are perfectly able to run your mouth, but nothing else.
 
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Lilithka

Phrourach
Jesus Christ... True Lie. I don't know who are you and what your intentions are but if you have any problem with Robbyn could you please talk to him via PM or something?
But if you're to scared to show him your real in-game just shut up or keep on topic here!
Thank you :D

PS - It should be not allowed to attack your own support to gain BP ;)
 
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