Whoo, finally some life in this section again
I think there are some problems with this topic that make it quite dificult.
1 morality well being idividual anyway is deserned massivly by wether the individual is an idealist or a realist
2 laws around the world while mostly dirived from roman catholism and english law do vary massivly
personaly im an idealist i feel if you dont aspired to be better moraly then win or lose its a wasted life.
I agree that this is a tough topic to discuss. Morality is indeed very dependant on an individuals identity, I don't think it's limited to being an idealist or a realist though, much more will influence a sense of morality. I also don't think you have to be an idealist to have that opinion. I'm a realist myself, an optimistic one at that, but I also believe that you should always try to make the morally correct choices, as impossible as that term may sound.
some one mentioned the slave trade
englands early wealth was brought on slavery most politicians of the time were either in slavers pockets or to scared of the monetry implications to act in a morale way
there was as always a minority a small group of activists that worked to end slavery they tried for many years to end slavery to no availe beaten by the money and power the slave trade had
ultimatly if it had not been for a sneeky act of plaiment driven through under the raidar briton would of caried on slaving.
I think you're making a mistake here in that you're applying modern day morality to an issue from a different time. It's true, slavery helped flourish the Dutch and British economies from the 1600s/1700s but even prior to the financial perks slavery has been a persisting phenomena throughout history. It had been 'normal' for millennia, close to none thought it was a weird thing to own another, inferior human being. Sure, there were a few people, as always, who opposed it, but this is simply the nature of humanity, not something specific to slavery. (much like today people who approve of slavery still exist)
As an idealist you're awfully pessimistic regarding the human race
I think that, regardless of any piece of legislation, due to the increase of general knowledge and cultural evolution we would have come to the conclusion that all humans are equal on our own.
the lure of imorality is massive as it has and always will lead to easy wealth it will always be around its temptation is iternal. it is only by the dedication of the morale minority and the need for social coheasion to for true explotation that the world survives and slowly evolves into somthing better.
goverments are slaves to opinion and only the opinion of the masses can make change unfortunatly the media all to often paints a realist picture today
Again, what's up with the cynicism?
You make it sound like I could easily become a millionaire by murdering toddlers.
UnFortunately this is not true. I also don't think there is a minority of morally correct people. In fact, I'd like to believe that the vast majority of people always tries to be as righteous as possible, given that only a very small (and as I showed in an earlier post, decreasing) portion of the public breaks the law.
I'm not sure what you mean wit your last sentence. could you elaborate?