Post your wall

ErikWijmeersch

ErikWijmeersch

Strategos
sandip81 said:
Why would you hide your CS kills, or is it too embarrassing.:D

Thats the only stat meaningful in a wall,me thinks.
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I am afraid i dont follow you on this 1?
I must me a noob, thought the only important things are :

Deff troops killed = showing not afraid to hammer birrwalls.
Not much FTS losses = showing you know how to cover yourself.
Deff stats = showing you deff well special teammates.

CS? only CS i lost are those i suicide to make free space , even let 1 killed by Red to make a 3.6 landnuke.
 

DeletedUser42857

Guest
The defensive stats on walls are utterly pointless.

If you put 1 slinger in a city that is defended by 2000 swords, that city is attacked by 1500 slingers which all die. You get 1500 slingers on your wall in return for your one death.

So defensive stats on walls are largely irrelevant, they just show the total deaths in cities you just happened to be in, but the results are the same whether you have a single slinger in that city, or 1000 biremmes.

Offensive walls, while interesting, can be pretty misleading as well, as its impossible to tell how many of those were internal clearances, when theres 30,000+ slingers on an offensive wall either its internal clearances, inactives, or someone just doesnt know how to defend :D

What i find most interesting about Erik's wall is it doesnt show how much gold he has ****** up against it.
 
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DeletedUser42857

Guest
My wall, but like i say, defensive walls are irrelevant, and offensive walls can be misleading

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[table="width: 710, class: outer_border"][tr][td][b]City wall[/b][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]Defeated...[/td][td][/td][td]Losses...[/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (178487)[/b]
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 54161  13387  27898  33306   1782   1962    159 
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     1      6      7     33      2     25     89 
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    96      7    402    399  15562   3617     60 
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  3969     42     11      1  21503 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (231700)[/b]
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 12936 102968   5676  74781   8045   8264    680 
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    16     25    199     16     18    177     65 
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 14842   2978     1 
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[/font][/td][/tr][tr][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/25.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (222348)[/b]
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  7451 111853   3035  51870  18244   2187   1082 
[color=#060]   180   1188           593                      [/color]
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     6    197      5    463     20     18     16 
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    15     12     84   1420   1069  19783   3500 
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     2     13      3 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (31874)[/b]
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 11739   2727   4222   4369    160    790      1 
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    14     16      3   2169    287    632      1 
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  4744 
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And before cup o'tea starts rambling, no i dont attack with swords, the sword deaths are from sending them unescorted to kill them off.. *yawn*

The biremmes killed as a defender I think were from where i sent support to Enigma to defend them against Hert ;)
 
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DeletedUser

Guest
My Wall:

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[table="width: 710, class: outer_border"][tr][td][b]City wall[/b][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]Defeated...[/td][td][/td][td]Losses...[/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (229186)[/b]
[img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/fA1.B1.C1.D1.E1.F1.G1_45_4.png[/img]
 67570  14108  40544  41058   3418   4046    191 
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     2      5     24      5     10    109    151 
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    10   1186    563  30334   3143     53   5283 
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   204     15  17154 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (255864)[/b]
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  1110 140490    840  44135  27892   3660   2412 
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     6     53    104      1     23     13     58 
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   107  30517   4426      1     15      1 
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[/font][/td][/tr][tr][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/25.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (791813)[/b]
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  2002 369561   1113 180766  58088  14172   7721 
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    23    486      2   1867     64    115     39 
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    24     62    839   1121    403 131940  21080 
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[img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/fF2.G2.B3_45_4.png[/img]
   242     53     30 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (67646)[/b]
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 20413    814  16102   7654    433    518     16 
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    15     18      1     45  14747    708    528 
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     3   5631 
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DeletedUser42857

Guest
Just number crunching..

One thing i look at on walls is number of city guard killed, as it gives a good basic marker of the "activity" of your opponent. Obviously hitting active opponents you will hit more farmers than if you are just massacring inactives.

Dim - 21503 from 178487 (1 farmer for every 8.30 kills)
Sandip - 17154 Farmers with 229186 abp (1 farmer for every 13.36 kills)
Erik - 37487 from 511616 (1 farmer for every 13.64 kills)

On the surface, it would seem Erik is facing the least active opponents, or at least the lowest number of opponents putting out city guard, but of course, there are countless variables. Targetting a week opponent with only 500 DLU and 350 farmers will be a higher farmer ratio than if you are hitting a city where you destroy 4000 DLU and 350 farmers, but it gives a basic guide.

naval BP

Erik - 9478 LS (94,780) 49136 BIremmes (393088) - Total BP 487,868 (32% of total abp)
Dim - 3617 LS (36,170 abp) 15562 Biremmes (124496) - Total BP 160,666 (37% of total abp)
Sandip - 3143 LS (31,430) 30334 Biremmes (242672) - Total BP 273,006 (48% of total abp)

Take out naval units and re-calculate farmers

Dim - 1 farmer killed for every 7.2 LU/Myth
Sandip - 1 farmer killled for every 11.0
Erik - 1 farmer killed for every 11.7

Conclusion, Sandip is the naval attacking master, Erik gets most of his BP clearing inactives. :D

Of course, all that is utter nonsense.
 

DeletedUser46251

Guest
Or the cities being cleared have more defense in, thus diluting the farmer killed to LU killed ratio :p
 

DeletedUser

Guest
what idiot isms are being poured to downplay the adversary even when he is attacker no 1 of the server!!!!
Rats insulting eagles!!!
 

DeletedUser42857

Guest
Baldarse said:
Or the cities being cleared have more defense in, thus diluting the farmer killed to LU killed ratio :p
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exactly.. but i already said that

Targetting a week opponent with only 500 DLU and 350 farmers will be a higher farmer ratio than if you are hitting a city where you destroy 4000 DLU and 350 farmers, but it gives a basic guide. .
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DeletedUser46251

Guest
So the point of this is?... If i wanted a basic guide i would check the bp rankings
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Dimspace, sandip81, why can't you guys just enjoy a simple post your wall thread. Sheesh, lighten up a little bit.....I don't really know how to do screen shots LOL
 

DeletedUser

Guest
jason1118 said:
sandip81, why can't you guys just enjoy a simple post your wall thread. Sheesh, lighten up a little bit.....I don't really know how to do screen shots LOL
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Big Mouth, I was talking to Erik, and cleaned up posts as soon as he posted his full wall.To keep the thread clean.
I have never realy said anywhere that I am a great player. So please stop trash talking.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
sandip81 said:
Big Mouth, I was talking to Erik, and cleaned up posts as soon as he posted his full wall.To keep the thread clean.
I have never realy said anywhere that I am a great player. So please stop trash talking.
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I wasn't trash talking. Relax.....perhaps its that time of the month?....yeah i went there LOL :pro:
 

DeletedUser

Guest
I wasn't trash talking. I was telling you to lighten up over a fun post. Thats not trash talking. Lighten up matey. Your being to serious about things :)
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Good idea to post walls. I agree with Dim that defense wall is pretty useless. You could just have a few bir in a stacked city and you are credited with all the kills. Most important metric in my mind is ratio of attack kills:losses. Early in a world, it is easy to have a high ratio (1.5-2). Later it tends to drop as you hit more cities stacked with defense.
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[table="width: 710, class: outer_border"][tr][td][b]City wall[/b][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]Defeated...[/td][td][/td][td]Losses...[/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (249009)[/b]
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 90997  14601  41567  37617   2329   2192    148 
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    32      8     20     20      9      5    166 
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     4    343    813  26709   2375    112   6572 
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    12  22358 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as an attacker (233771)[/b]
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   821  72261    463 117575  13617     55   1920 
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   170    605     44      6      1     22    274 
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 23813   2116      8 
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[/font][/td][/tr][tr][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/25.png[/img][/td][td][img]http://grepolis.potusek.eu/static/340.png[/img][/td][/tr][tr][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (290292)[/b]
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  4718 130008   3488  58699  20745   4639   2235 
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     6     95    926     33     93     16     21 
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    21      7   1353    298  54028   8702    124 
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    30      7 
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[/font][/td][td][/td][td][font=Courier New][b]...as a defender (58436)[/b]
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 13685   1647   6681  10103    244    112     30 
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     2      8      1      3     85  15766   1164 
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   931      2   7972 
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DeletedUser

Guest
Defense wall shows really just how active of a defender You are... the more stuff You have there the more You have helped Your teammates, that's it. Killed/lost ratio doesn't really show a thing.. it's just basically who has been luckier and hit the least amount of stacked cities or had the worst opponents.

This whole wall thing really doesnt show much at all, doesnt matter where You look at it from...
 
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