Shogunate Enclave Bad Day

AptPupil

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Shogunate Enclave = FAIL
Now, I’m not one to start a war or anything but recently i started to wonder why any of the big or little alliances would want to team up with Shogunate Enclave.
They seemed like an average MRA. MRA’s have a place in games like this. That’s recognized. Your opinion of that fact has nothing to do with this thread. They have over 250 players, some good sized players making their way up the leader board and even a few on the BP boards. Great. More activity equals more fun in Delta for everyone.
So, recently I decided I needed to expand my little empire and ended up on an island where lo and behold was DragonOTM, Leader of Shogunate Enclave. I didn’t care. They hadn’t done anything to us and as long as I left him alone, he would do the same. WRONG.
Apparently, he’s delusional. By me taking an inactive city on the same island as him, bespeaks an act of war. In his mind at least. Upon arriving there, I opened up some dialogue with him. Or tried to at least.
AptPupil on 5/1/10 at 3:59 AM
we haven't spoken yet. I see you are the leader of the SE's. good job. your buddy is close by too. i have no quarrel with the SE's. i trust you don't have one with me either.

i like to chat, so if you're a chatty guy/girl, feel free to mail me.

are you joining up for zeta btw? just curious your thoughts on the new rebellion feature. seems a mistake to me, but no matter.

bye
chatty, right? I even said that I had no quarrel with the SE’s.
DragonOTM on 5/1/10 at 4:37 AM
what buddy do you mean?
I guess he doesn’t understand English very well.

But, that’s when the fun started. Not long after, I replied to him.
AptPupil on 5/1/10 at 12:50 PM
I'm not sure which part you didn't get with my mail. I was trying to be friendly and describe that I have no quarrel with Shogunate Enclave. I also know that Smash Bros is of same opinion. If anything, I was pushing for an alliance with Shogunate Enclave. So, to break the ice, I sent you a mail saying hi. I recognize you and your bigger players are close by and being in a fight with you and your team is not something I really desire.
So, if you are not interested in peace with Smash Bros, just say so now.

PS - your buddy Brighty has a 38 hour transport wave coming to my city that is on the same island as you and I. I have mailed the assailant and hopefully he reconsiders.
Apparently, by mailing him and trying to discuss the weather equaled an act of war I guess. Because after that I was attacked 15 times and bolted and earthquaked about the same. I need to hone my friend making skills.

But, at least I know one thing. I’m glad that I’m not a SE. Here are a couple highlights. note - they did hurt me once, but i'm recovering nicely.

thehackius

boltzy fail 1

boltzy fail bireme 2

timmins attack fail



Later during a farming mission - I accidentally tripped over a SE CS. Oops.
Timmins CS wipe



Now, with all those attacks, I'm still not too upset with them. I just haven't managed to use the right language to get them to understand they're making a big mistake. So, I continued to attempt dialogue with DragonOTM.

AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 2:34 AM
4 attacks inbound on me and 2 lightning bolts. nice. something i said?
DragonOTM on 5/2/10 at 6:45 AM
try the 3 cities you attacked that is in my alliance want to see the tinypics?
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 1:05 PM
yeah! when was that dragon? 2 months ago? were they people 'hiding' under your banner? did they ask me to stop? hmm?
Show them to me and we can discuss.
Btw the bolting and earthquake is totally uncalled for. and cowardly.
Send the pics dragon.
Apt.
DragonOTM on 5/2/10 at 7:01 PM
I really dont think I have to justify anything to you. Did you do us such favors when you attacked us?
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 7:17 PM
hehe. whatever dragon - you opened your mouth when you asked if i want to see the tinypics.

so not only are you a coward, you are not really a man of honor of any kind that i use as a metric.
so, why don't you and your bunch of followers keep bolting me. it will only help when i rim you next. cuz your team just gave me enough bp for my required amounts of cp.

learn how to run an alliance before you start picking fights you aren't going to win.
I think i got a little heated up here. lol. Good thing I'm not SB's diplomat.

DragonOTM on 5/2/10 at 7:25 PM
Hey whatever, were not going to sit here and let you keep attacking without standing up for ourselves. Im still looking for the rest of these tinypics by the way, only found 1 so far. 1 of the players is conquored and left the game. But I know I seen them thats all that matters to me. Oh and they were all recent if you could remember as far back as 2 days ago huh not 2 months ago.
still no tinypic
DragonOTM on 5/2/10 at 7:41 PM
Dee550, Argons, lee1974
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 7:45 PM
dee 550 - was unallied. went to your alliance. he's classified as a refugee. i won't accept that one.
who the hell is lee1974?
DragonOTM on 5/2/10 at 7:51 PM
hes the one you took the city from, and what do you mean "YOU" wont accept, its all stabs at this alliance repeatedly as well as the fact you moving in on my island. These are all signals of attack and war against us.
This last one seems to be the linchpin of his entire argument. None of my cities are from a SE player. NONE. I double checked on GrepoStats. Just to make sure.
AptPupil on 5/3/10 at 12:54 PM
check your facts dragon.
my city Minos on same island as you was taken from an inactive, no alliance player.
you can look it up on grepoworld or grepostats.
And I told him the same thing too.
DragonOTM today at 6:52 AM
I never said anything about minos being inactive before you took it. What Im saying is you come here all acting like were buddies after you attacked my alliance and trying to be all "Neighborly" I know damn well what you reason for doing this is and that is an act of war towards me. Stop trying to put words in my mouth and use your damn head. Im not stupid and I think everyone knows the method for you taking a city, on the alliance leaders island, from the alliance you been recently attacking with unprovoked attacks. Check your facts not-so-AptPupil.
He forgets the part above where he said I took a city from a SE. Now the story changes. I wonder if he gets distracted easily by butterflies flying by. Not sure. Must be the pressure of leadership. I laughed at the not-so-apt part.
This is the disappointing part.
A mail back and forth with a player that bolted me.
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 5:37 AM
Thanks for the bolt.
emperor of agony on 5/2/10 at 3:05 PM
Normally I wouldn't of done that, but my tribe leader was bithin too hard so I had to show him a report of something.
So, now I see that Leadership at SE camp is forcing their players to participate in his delusions under threat. I'm not sure how everyone else feels about that one, but I for one would not be party to it if that were my alliance. I would have left right away.
Follow up confirmation on the 'pressure' tactics.
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 3:09 PM
erm, okay. normal diplomacy usually works better than using bolts.

not sure what exactly you were told to make it seem justifiable, but i haven't bolted anyone or earthquaked them.
your team's tactics are truly suspect.

not cool.
emperor of agony on 5/2/10 at 3:10 PM
I know that but normal diplomacy doesn't get me an attack report.
AptPupil on 5/2/10 at 3:12 PM
fair enough. maybe you're on the wrong team if that's their tactics.
emperor of agony on 5/2/10 at 3:19 PM
Yeah probably.
Summers Eve = S.E.
Shogunate Enclave = S.E.
There is definitely some correlation between the Summers Eve product and Shogunate Enclave alliance (the leader at least in my opinion). Not sure what a Summers Eve product is? The tagline on the commercial is "Mom, sometimes I just don't feel fresh..." Google will likely get you there.

Why would anyone ally with this alliance leader? SE players - leave your alliance. DragonOTM will lead you down the drain.


And, I'm not a diplomat. Just thought I'd clarify that.
 

DeletedUser3288

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too long didnt read.



edit - only joking i did read it.

you post all them massive big black things saying "massive fail" yet you researched tiremes.

yet another MASSIVE FAIL!!
 
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AptPupil

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too long didnt read.



edit - only joking i did read it.

you post all them massive big black things saying "massive fail" yet you researched tiremes.

yet another MASSIVE FAIL!!
Hey Daniejam. I know you're a good player in this world. But, your jumping to conclusions. those aren't my triremes.

FAIL!
Don't make assumptions. Cuz in this case you only made an *** out of you. Not me.

Thank you , please come again.
 

DeletedUser3288

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Hey Daniejam. I know you're a good player in this world. But, your jumping to conclusions. those aren't my triremes.

FAIL!
Don't make assumptions. Cuz in this case you only made an *** out of you. Not me.

Thank you , please come again.
pointing out that you have tiremes in your city isnt really making me look like an ***. Whoever supported you is the "fail" then.
 

AptPupil

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Fail is you trolling this thread and honing in on the triremes.
 

AptPupil

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That would actually be attention to detail, which is a good trait, not a bad one dude.......

too long didnt read.



edit - only joking i did read it.

you post all them massive big black things saying "massive fail" yet you researched tiremes.

yet another MASSIVE FAIL!!
This was the part I was pointing out. Thats the attention to detail I refer to.
But no matter. You've made your point danie. You think someone that researches triremes are losers. That's fine. It wasn't me.
 

DeletedUser3288

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This was the part I was pointing out. Thats the attention to detail I refer to.
But no matter. You've made your point danie. You think someone that researches triremes are losers. That's fine. It wasn't me.
well saying they are loosers are a bit harsh!!

more like they didnt do their research into wether tiremes are better than mix of lights / biremes (which they are not!)

there are people out there who do worse tho.

someone near me has biremes, light ships, fire ships, tiremes, chariots and hops.
 

Slalom

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Nice post, its really not that long of a read and is pretty entertaining.
 

Tesse

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Agreed. Entertaining enough :).

And if Triremes are the biggest fail you can spot in this thread you seriously need to update your knowledge of the game.
 

Dakkar

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too long didnt read.



edit - only joking i did read it.

you post all them massive big black things saying "massive fail" yet you researched tiremes.

yet another MASSIVE FAIL!!

I use tririmes :)

there good for 2 things:

1) escorting colony ships (useless after update)
2) Some nub researched them and you need CP for more important things :/
 

Shydrow

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lolz im ont Smash bros side for this one. The SE leader seems like a joke
 

FortyFour

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wow

woooweee. Talk about a slight case of conspiracy theory lol. I'm sure some of his alliance was attacked by smash at some point, I have no doubt. And arm twisting alliance members to do your personal bidding is never the way to go. But to think that you were putting a colony on his island to somehow conspire against him personally, maybe just a bit of a stretch.

But in his defense, the Smash bros members our alliance has come into contact with on the same island haven't really made the best of neighbors, I'm just saying...(first Aicy-Then Metaldazer) I'm not saying you'd have attacked him once you got settled in because I don't know anything about you personally, but smash bro's aren't exactly waving the the peace symbol around. Nothing personal against Smash of course.
 

Eucilydis

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woooweee. Talk about a slight case of conspiracy theory lol. I'm sure some of his alliance was attacked by smash at some point, I have no doubt. And arm twisting alliance members to do your personal bidding is never the way to go. But to think that you were putting a colony on his island to somehow conspire against him personally, maybe just a bit of a stretch.

But in his defense, the Smash bros members our alliance has come into contact with on the same island haven't really made the best of neighbors, I'm just saying...(first Aicy-Then Metaldazer) I'm not saying you'd have attacked him once you got settled in because I don't know anything about you personally, but smash bro's aren't exactly waving the the peace symbol around. Nothing personal against Smash of course.

Smash Bros declared war and committed several acts of war on them right enough.

Why do you think he wrote that letter kissing SE bottom?

Untill he built up enough :)
 

Melaina

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I thought you might find this amusing

noting of course that morale doesn't affect those losses at all so it really is just a case of epic fail!
 

Tesse

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SB didn't declare war or anything on SE. Apt has just farmed a few players with the lowest scores and hardly any army who of course happen to be in SE.

Personally I would try to establish some nice contact with a bigger player on an island we share as well. And as long as the 2 alliances are not officially at war such a contact can stay nice. I think that in this case the SE guy would have been wiser if he had been diplomatic and try to make a mutual agreement with Apt.

As long as Battle reports like the one Melaina posted look like they do, SE should try to avoid every kind of fight.
 

AptPupil

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Not surprised by the bireme attack at all Melaina. They had about 5 of them on me.
Free BP!