DeletedUser
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Which makes your "Small is better" philosophy somewhat stupidly redundant right?
You took this path to suicide leading the rest of your alliance to their doom knowing that you had no hope?
Sounds like a plan! :=]
Which makes your "Small is better" philosophy somewhat stupidly redundant right?
You took this path to suicide leading the rest of your alliance to their doom knowing that you had no hope?
Sounds like a plan! :=]
DeletedUser24767
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Depends on how you define better.
If better means killing your own CS when they are seiging the enemy, then you are better for sure.
Better many times over than any other alliance.
But the thing is, we are enjoying the battle; and enjoyment = fun.
So we are having fun playing the game, which surely is the point of games, to have fun no?
Now, if you think my fun is not as good as your fun, then you are mistaken.
Don't tell me you are not having fun attacking us?
If better means killing your own CS when they are seiging the enemy, then you are better for sure.
Better many times over than any other alliance.
But the thing is, we are enjoying the battle; and enjoyment = fun.
So we are having fun playing the game, which surely is the point of games, to have fun no?
Now, if you think my fun is not as good as your fun, then you are mistaken.
Don't tell me you are not having fun attacking us?
DeletedUser
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Fun is fun but throwing your whole Alliance under the proverbial bus sounds like madness!
It can't be any fun being dragged into a pointless, unwinnable war by a fun-loving madman...........
It can't be any fun being dragged into a pointless, unwinnable war by a fun-loving madman...........
DeletedUser
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sigh
I want to get my two cents in prior to the inevitable outcome.
Ever since I have joined this realm, every single dealing I've been in, directly or indirectly, that involves The Prophets (or any of the 17 or so names they have gone through) has been either
1) convoluted due to what I can only perceive as internal confusion/conflict
2) based on lies/deceit
The first alliance I joined in this realm was brought down via Prophets players using deceit and lies to get that alliance to collapse and have all members from it join The Prophets. That was the initial bad taste in my mouth.
Then it was followed up with outright lies of support and allegiance to other alliances I joined, but which turned out to be nothing more than setups to destroy those alliances as well.
Now I understand this is a wargame. And I appreciate using diplomacy. But for my money, if it's not an in-game mechanic, then perhaps the use of it doesn't actually show skill or ability or even something to be proud of.
And while some players like the idea of "win at all cost" and "the ends justify the means", I'd rather not be included in those groups.
Are there good players in The Prophets? Absolutely.
Will The Prophets defeat The Crimson Empire? I'd say it's a given.
Will I be defeated by The Prophets? It appears there is no other outcome (that is acceptable to me) to be had.
- So I can come on here and cry my alliance mates didnt help. But no, that's not going to happen.
- Or I can join The Prophets (as I have been given that opportunity on several occasions - the most recent one being a horrible example of poor spelling/bad grammar/inept use of BB codes which I found to be hilarious). But again, no. I will accept the inevitable as opposed to joining an alliance that appears to only gain a majority of it's momentum and power from lies and deceit.
So is The Crimson Lord wrong for his current stance? As crash said, it's opinion. But for me, I'd rather support someone whose opinion is based on loyalty, respect, and honesty than not. And I'd rather die fighting for those ideals as opposed to giving up what I perceive as a moral stand of virtue and siding with the enemy.
In a different situation, I'd merge with The Prophets and accept the alliance I was in had been defeated (as I believe The Crimson Lord would as well). In this situation, I can't do that because I can't bring myself to be part of their team due to the issues listed above.
So in advance, I accept my defeat but I will die fighting.
And I wish The Prophets the best of luck, even if I disagree with some of their tactics. As stated, many of their players are top end, and I'm sure that even without the tactics I dislike, they would be very high in the rankings, or still number 1, as they do have top players.
I want to get my two cents in prior to the inevitable outcome.
Ever since I have joined this realm, every single dealing I've been in, directly or indirectly, that involves The Prophets (or any of the 17 or so names they have gone through) has been either
1) convoluted due to what I can only perceive as internal confusion/conflict
2) based on lies/deceit
The first alliance I joined in this realm was brought down via Prophets players using deceit and lies to get that alliance to collapse and have all members from it join The Prophets. That was the initial bad taste in my mouth.
Then it was followed up with outright lies of support and allegiance to other alliances I joined, but which turned out to be nothing more than setups to destroy those alliances as well.
Now I understand this is a wargame. And I appreciate using diplomacy. But for my money, if it's not an in-game mechanic, then perhaps the use of it doesn't actually show skill or ability or even something to be proud of.
And while some players like the idea of "win at all cost" and "the ends justify the means", I'd rather not be included in those groups.
Are there good players in The Prophets? Absolutely.
Will The Prophets defeat The Crimson Empire? I'd say it's a given.
Will I be defeated by The Prophets? It appears there is no other outcome (that is acceptable to me) to be had.
- So I can come on here and cry my alliance mates didnt help. But no, that's not going to happen.
- Or I can join The Prophets (as I have been given that opportunity on several occasions - the most recent one being a horrible example of poor spelling/bad grammar/inept use of BB codes which I found to be hilarious). But again, no. I will accept the inevitable as opposed to joining an alliance that appears to only gain a majority of it's momentum and power from lies and deceit.
So is The Crimson Lord wrong for his current stance? As crash said, it's opinion. But for me, I'd rather support someone whose opinion is based on loyalty, respect, and honesty than not. And I'd rather die fighting for those ideals as opposed to giving up what I perceive as a moral stand of virtue and siding with the enemy.
In a different situation, I'd merge with The Prophets and accept the alliance I was in had been defeated (as I believe The Crimson Lord would as well). In this situation, I can't do that because I can't bring myself to be part of their team due to the issues listed above.
So in advance, I accept my defeat but I will die fighting.
And I wish The Prophets the best of luck, even if I disagree with some of their tactics. As stated, many of their players are top end, and I'm sure that even without the tactics I dislike, they would be very high in the rankings, or still number 1, as they do have top players.
DeletedUser
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^ Principles are very admirable but they won't help when you are sitting all alone on the rim.
DeletedUser
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the beauty of grepolis is that it's a game, and even if you do lose all of your virtual cities in one world you can start another. starting a new world with your integrity intact would, in my opinion, be a better outcome than going against your principles to keep those virtual cities and, possibly, end up with a virutal award to say that you are the king of an interwebz server
actually, that is my exact definition of fun
DeletedUser
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I think you are missing my point. You and TCL might believe it's all a jolly good jape to commit Grep Hari-kiri, but I think soon you will find that quite a few of your fellow TCE'ers might feel rather differently.
Let's see how many principled members you have left by this time tomorrow..........
Let's see how many principled members you have left by this time tomorrow..........
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DeletedUser
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as long as you keep escorting your attacks with 5LS i'm sure it'll be a jolly good jape for all involved
DeletedUser24767
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I think you have missed the whole point of this war.
We are not afriad of you, we want to fight you.
We do not care if we lose our cities.
We enjoy the struggle, you can't change that.
I have been offered the chance to join you and save my cities twice since this war began.
I don't want to join you.
The Prophets can not bully us around by waving sticks.
It is as simple as that.
DeletedUser
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as long as you keep escorting your attacks with 5LS i'm sure it'll be a jolly good jape for all involved
And as long as you sit on your backsides doing nothing in retaliation we'll all join in the laughter.
DeletedUser31161
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DeletedUser
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So Pythagorus, you are telling me you did not want to help me because I made ONE mistake in judgement, thinking a fast ship attack was an LS attack? Really? That just ridiculous. Isn't one of the functions of an alliance, to help out other alliance members when they are in trouble? Maybe I got the wrong memo.
Also, when you have continuous attacks on you for 2 days and the city you put your support in gets wiped, it's pretty hard to contend without alliance support.
I wasn't crying or moaning, I was telling it how it is. I don't care if all my cities get wiped, but how are we meant to put up any sort of meaningful resistance, if all the members of the alliance are doing their own thing?
I still maintain that a small group of elite players is the way to run an alliance, however, all those members need to be helping eachother out for that to work.
TCE could have had 200 members, but if none of them supported, the result would have been the same.
Also, when you have continuous attacks on you for 2 days and the city you put your support in gets wiped, it's pretty hard to contend without alliance support.
I wasn't crying or moaning, I was telling it how it is. I don't care if all my cities get wiped, but how are we meant to put up any sort of meaningful resistance, if all the members of the alliance are doing their own thing?
I still maintain that a small group of elite players is the way to run an alliance, however, all those members need to be helping eachother out for that to work.
TCE could have had 200 members, but if none of them supported, the result would have been the same.
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no, making a mistake is totally understandable! it's just the total inability to recover that made me think, "why help a guy who doesn't help himself?". by joining a 15-man alliance you're telling me that you can hold your own, so when circumstances indicate that you can't then i guess i subconsciously exclude you... (i wasn't always like this, i swear! lol)
it's probably understandable to expect your alliance to help, even in that kinda situation, but unfortunately i'm not exactly 'mr active' these days so figured i'd prefer to defend myself than you
just because some people aren't posting multiple defence threads on the forum doesn't mean they're not getting attacked DeletedUser
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Then even a post to say say I'm under attack myself, i can't help you out, and I would have understood. I had 3 CS' inbound with around 60 attacks over 2 days. I'm not sure what you would have liked me to do in that situation. I dodged a large percentage of attacks as I'm sure TP players can confirm, but I can't dodge everything all the time, it's just impossible. I think I did a good job in saving the amount of troops I did in the circumstances.
Also, when a player tells you they are going to support you with biremes, but they don't or don't bother to time the support well enough, how are you supposed to mount an effective defence?
Also, when a player tells you they are going to support you with biremes, but they don't or don't bother to time the support well enough, how are you supposed to mount an effective defence?
DeletedUser
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Mr P its not really an academy. the alliance number it kind of is, but not there same name but with chaos on the end with a shared claims tab but am surpised they haven't merged into one big MRA yet.
DeletedUser31618
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All renegates from 4 oceans under one flag
Rule number one : If You are scared to fight, JUST JOIN THE PROPHETS
This is the worst world I ever played in ... This is a disaster ... Crash ... what You doing man ?
Rule number one : If You are scared to fight, JUST JOIN THE PROPHETS
This is the worst world I ever played in ... This is a disaster ... Crash ... what You doing man ?
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DeletedUser
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ahahahaha..
DeletedUser
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All renegates from 4 oceans under one flag
Rule number one : If You are scared to fight, JUST JOIN THE PROPHETS
This is the worst world I ever played in ... This is a disaster ... Crash ... what You doing man ?
i said it before it was cool
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