Zacynthus history review

Leolis

Phrourach
Ok, first, congratulations to The Syndicate for being the "Victors of the world"! Well done!
Second, due to more and more Zacynthus related comment in the thread Mungus created to challenge EN (http://forum.en.grepolis.com/showthread.php?52475-The-Syndicate-wants-challenge), I created this thread for you guys to reveal the mysterious history of the world. Please be polite, no insult or personal attack. The discussion is not to change the fact that TS have won the world and is the best alliance here, keep it in mind!
So welcome, dimspace, beermonkey, mungus, Zero Point, ...
 

mungus1974

Strategos
There was nothing mysterious about our history.We come to Zac to win and we did that.Our plan was simple, get in core ocean with trusted members, expand and pick up some good players in the way.As i told you before we don`t kill good players we educate them to become even better.And i think we end up with all the good players who come up from this world, except one JetSerb.The rest are just not worth, you are one of them, btw :eek:
 

Leolis

Phrourach
I don't argue with you about me being good or bad player, that's not what I care about. You might want to pick Jet but he is not RullyBully.

As I said, this topic is for discussing what dimspace and other people want to know about Zacynthus in a honest way. You don't need to show off for you or TS, you are already the winner of the world, ok? If you all don't agree, I will ask mod to delete the thread.
 
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dimspace

Phrourach
Theres nothing I want to know about Zac that i dont already know thank you very much.

I can tell you pretty much who was at war with whom, and who was pacted with whom, from the beginning, to the end.

The only thing I would possibly say is i underestimated Syndicate, not as an alliance, they were by far the most aggressive from start to finish and they proved time and time again what a good team they were (and to go 18 months with virtually no member churn takes some doing), but even I wasnt sure they would do it with the numbers so heavily against them.

Not sure if I underestimated Syndicate, or overestimated Fight Club.. maybe a bit of both ;)


And yes, i know i quit the world, but after my alliance first got shoved into a retarded merge with anarchy, and then merged with the misfits, i decided enough was enough (and i still single handed managed to sink 11 FC CS - mostly td-td's while allowing syndis to sail in)
 
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beaster13

Phrourach
I can give you the history from my albeit brief stay on Zacy - from a TS insiders prospective.

1) Syndicate fresh off a victory on Byz joined the next speed 1 server - no other "major" premades join the server
2) 1 month later INNO starts a new server with Zacy still in its infancy - Server is not yet large enough to support the 18 month slog of speed 1***
3) No pacts, Attack first, ask questions later style of play carve out core for syndicate. They are allowed to build 80% offense in early going as other alliances are afraid to attack them.
4)3 months in it was already evident it would take the whole server ganging up on TS for them to have a chance

And the rest they say is history.

*** In a speed 1 server the world needs to be huge in order to support the long term nature of the server due to player attrition. Inno went on a 2 year binge of mass spawning servers which was a detriment to the game. The small size of servers essentially boils every one down to a 2-3 horse race fairly early on leaving those on the outside essentially no hope of competing. What happens then ? They quit the already small server....
On large servers you get "rim alliances" that actually have a chance - they are allowed time to grow, learn, war, expand and actually be relevant. But these servers take a few months to populate and until recently INNO has been more concerned with churning out quantity over quality as the start of servers produce the most gold consumption...
 

beaster13

Phrourach
PS congrats TS on another victory !
Mungus/Billy/whoever shoot me an email when you move onto a new server - I may come out of grepo-retirement :p
 

billy200

Phrourach
there is no mystery about the syndicate at all,we are just very good at destroying alliances,but i will say the biggest mystery is how you are a leader of Fight club,The syndicate thank u very much
 

lewis98

Guest
There was nothing mysterious about our history.We come to Zac to win and we did that.Our plan was simple, get in core ocean with trusted members, expand and pick up some good players in the way.As i told you before we don`t kill good players we educate them to become even better.And i think we end up with all the good players who come up from this world, except one JetSerb.The rest are just not worth, you are one of them, btw :eek:
Well according to your merry band that faced me in 56 TU was more than worthy of you. Many of us were praised for our abilities to cause havoc even when outnumbered and outgunned. So saying we all sucked was a blatant lie. We were plagued by inactive and simmers and people who thought they could take on your armies by themselves. You may ask Ex.TU We had some masterminds that destroyed your defenses over and over despite the numbers. Your teamwork was good, that is something i will admit, but it wasn't as good at 57's. And if it wasn't for some players, not naming names, then we would have been even more effective. We pushed you back to northern 56 if you look. You controlled all the way to the southern tip before we started our assault. now you own half an ocean. Saying something yet?
 

mungus1974

Strategos
Well according to your merry band that faced me in 56 TU was more than worthy of you. Many of us were praised for our abilities to cause havoc even when outnumbered and outgunned. So saying we all sucked was a blatant lie. We were plagued by inactive and simmers and people who thought they could take on your armies by themselves. You may ask Ex.TU We had some masterminds that destroyed your defenses over and over despite the numbers. Your teamwork was good, that is something i will admit, but it wasn't as good at 57's. And if it wasn't for some players, not naming names, then we would have been even more effective. We pushed you back to northern 56 if you look. You controlled all the way to the southern tip before we started our assault. now you own half an ocean. Saying something yet?
You pushed us back?Yes you did and we had to pull back all the way to the 55.You were great, probably the best i played against :D Get real
 

lewis98

Guest
The sad thing is im admitting you were better, putting all our issues aside you played a fair game. But some of us did not give in.
 

jamovic1

Guest
an old quote i saved from one of our spies >


Something i grilled players for aswell. Couldnt take an inactive or ghosted city.
then the word your looking for is 'simmer' not 'player'...if someone requested help clearing a ghost i would boot them..it shows a failure to grasp so many basic grep concepts its not worth trying to explain them anything
1. if you cant clear a ghost or inactive..well ahem..morale cant even be an excuse
2.if you ask for help cause you dont have the LS alu your not in a position to be taking another city at all
3. your wasting alliance offense that can be better used against active players or enemy inacts
actually this list could go on forever ,my question is istead of grilling them why not internalise them if they were so selfish?
 

mungus1974

Strategos
Congrats to all TS members for the crown and for FC you still have that award The biggest losers in grepolis history
 

Nichy85

Phrourach
I want to thank to all TS players and TS leadership.
There are many skillful players all around grepo, but few are the leaders that can plan, organize and run it till the end, dedicated to victory.

Thanks again :)
 

mungus1974

Strategos
This is how your great leader defend:
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Poor tom went 100% turtle and yet he can`t do anything