Erik and Tea-
RE: city "I am Coming" and others- it wasn't
just Erik's choice to colonize a 721 point ghost city within our oceans that lead to our alliance paths heading different directions. There was also the issue of taking several large, O66 ghosts that were part of one of our sub-alliances that disbanded, PB&J. We both know this, so it should come as no surprise to hear it mentioned here in addition to the multiple emails I sent to Praehelios. It was mentioned to Prae within the 24 hours prior the onset of the war, and only recently responded to. We never took nor colonized a 65 city prior to you alliance taking quite a few in our 66 ocean, which were ghosts that we felt "entitled" to since they were part of a sub-alliance. We never fathomed having to "race" your alliance to take ghosts in 66- it went against the agreement of our NAP, as I understand. When did you all accept accountability for that? Or, is it simply unfathomable that any alliance on the server would ask you to be accountable for your actions or the actions of your members? Most NAPs are mutually beneficial, not singularly to the benefit of one alliance- in this case, the NAP became singularly beneficial to you all.
We are accountable for not notifying you with the standard 48 hour NAP dissolution, and have never professed otherwise. However, taking "our" ghosts and ghosts well within our borders was certainly percieved as one of 2 things:
1. NAP violation
2. Declaration of intentions and eventual war
Does a violation of a NAP or a pact not consequentially remove all agreements from the table on an
immediate basis in terms of how your alliance reacts? If we had made the first move to do this, how would you have handled it? And certainly, it was NOT a single "oops" move- taking more than one city in 66 over a 5-7 day period within our ocean was not a mistake. If you want to claim it was a mistake, then it falls to Comings alliance management of the team's actions.
HR West and Keletho have provided no valuable information regarding Comings voluntarily, and they haven't been asked to do so either. Whether they are in our alliance or not- it really has little impact on the direction of our "war". They have both proved to have their own challenges- HR West admittedly has a language barrier and can be misinterpreted at times. You all never suggested that Keletho was a "spy". And, you are welcome to send to us any confirmation of either of these 2 players being a spy and
they will be dealt with appropriately-just as Barbs did. Will I take your word for it, at this point? Ummmmm....not only no, but "H*** NO! We've got a trust barrier firmly in place at this point between our alliances. Sadly, documentation would need to be provided- it's why I never delete an in game PM. And "the dog ate my homework" (aka "I deleted the PM") will not fly.
And yes, you all did honor refugee status on Arjujaan when he left DES. I don't suppose he shared with you that he approached us for membership first, and was given the opportunity to wait 24 hours and get through the revolts first and then we would be happy to have him? Probably not. Regardless, I don't think he's around anymore. So, why debate him?
I don't care to post out here on the externals often. As I said- I enjoy reading what you all and others "enlighten" and entertain us with. We will absorb most of your commentary in silence, generally speaking. However, suggesting that the city that Erik took in our ocean was a Comings internal of significance was a blatant mistruth...one proven by grepointel, for anyone interested look at 3/12/15
http://www.grepointel.com/track.php?server=en81&server=en81&pn=ErikWijmeersch&dow=all&rt=conquest.
Tea, when was the last time that you read Erik's profile page? I don't think that we can possibly aspire to hold ourselves anywhere NEAR that valuable, nor to the high standards of value and self-service I see in your external posts. "We" don't think of ourselves as "unqualified", but we certainly don't see our alliance as "entitled". And, we have respect for nearly every alliance on the server...even our enemies.
Good luck, and if you want to discuss it further, feel free to PM me within the game or forward any evidence of "spies" that you have.
I leave the "propaganda crown" to you all...you have certainly earned it.