Grepolis Cheat(ing/ers)

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DeletedUser

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Seems this game has a fair amount of multi-account cheating going on as several leaders of several alliances obtain account u/p's, max build forces and then use their multi-accounts to mass attack others.....apparently if someone gets busted the mods only ban 1 account, so they can continue to do it again, over and over while getting away it.....

I'm getting sick of sending in reports about players multi-account cheating - I've sent in well over 80 reports, most of which are about valid cheaters...and the ones cheating are STILL doing it from their remaining accounts (3 leaders had at one time shared up to 5 accounts, built up and stacked/built offensive forces and went on a rampage for months! All they got was a temp 5 day ban lmao)

It would seem that while the game developers have been developing Grepo 2.0, they did very little about game cheating, and thus still turned it into a game no longer worth playing
 

DeletedUser

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the in-game mods can do things like check the IP's (as far as i know) so i'm sure their information is better than the information you have about who is or is not multi-accounting and i would think that they take the appropriate action given their information.
 

DeletedUser

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i will tell whos a cheater.one player who is attacked by other with unescorted transports.look whut masterity killed in nu.he have many boats killed and many bpd.i never cheated.only once,in eta,i created another account,named mutzzy reloaded,HOW SMART.why?coz i wanted to be banned and dfe cant takke my cities.i even told giga and saintchill to report me.but i know few big players(so they think)who are cheating in every world they play.and if i want to cheat,its VERY EASY,but i never do that.
 

Baudin Toolan

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Ignoring what Mutzy said cause I can't read it, you need to trust the mods to do their jobs. As a player it's hard to tell if someone is multi-accounting unless they tell you themselves.
 

DeletedUser

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The mod's have there own agenda, and why would anyone trust them. Why would they not act on a report of someone cheating. A multi account cheater and all he gets is a ban for few days. sounds like the cheaters are paying off the mod's. Buying them some gold so they can keep there multi accounts.
 

Baudin Toolan

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Umm I don't know all the mods personally but they are really great people from what I've seen. But you're opinion is what it is and I don't like feeding trolls
 

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rjc1107 said:
The mod's have there own agenda, and why would anyone trust them. Why would they not act on a report of someone cheating. A multi account cheater and all he gets is a ban for few days. sounds like the cheaters are paying off the mod's. Buying them some gold so they can keep there multi accounts.
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You really have no idea what your talking about. Neither do you have access to our support tools.

There is no super-logic behind this. We find someone cheating, we ban them exactly how we are told to. We don't set the ban reasons, or the ban lengths. There are present punishments which we follow. For the most part, they are just punishments for the offence.

We receive a report from a player, we check it out. If the player is cheating, they are banned. If they are not cheating, they are not banned. What you probably don't realise is that there a large majority of players who report other users for cheating simply to get them out of hot water when being attacked.

Qlander - you do not have access to our support tools. You do not see what we see. We don't ban to your or anybody elses whim. Any ban we make needs to have significant evidence behind it. Simply put, we don't ban people on your report alone. We appreciate you letting us know, but the best we can do is look into it.
 

DeletedUser

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This is outrageous, how would you know that there multi-accounting, some people and alliances coordinate attacks, they are actually good at the game, just beacuse you get mass attacked does not mean it is by one person. People use skype, in-game chat and PM to coordinate attacks, believe it or not alliances and freinds will help you conquer!!!

Saying the mods lets this happen is plain, obviously stupid, Most of the mods play the game, they enjoy, it, they don't get payed, they do there work so that the game can run, and they know is to much cheating and hacking happens people will stop playing, and beacuse this is community game, the game will become boring. The mods are not stupid. They are not greedy little kids who need money for gold, they have/had jobs they have money(If they didn't there wouldn't be on the internet). SIGMs, and purple will be able to tell by the way to talk and what you have done previously, and thats the reason idiots who would abuse being a mod, don't become mods...
 

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If and when you suspect that someone is cheating, and you report them will investigate your claim. You will not be told the outcome one way or the other. We appreciate when someone does file a report that there is a cheater. However, just because there are coincidental actions, similar names, etc does not automatically mean there is cheating occuring.
 
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rjc1107 said:
The mod's have there own agenda, and why would anyone trust them. Why would they not act on a report of someone cheating. A multi account cheater and all he gets is a ban for few days. sounds like the cheaters are paying off the mod's. Buying them some gold so they can keep there multi accounts.
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no,its not true.i was arguing many times with mods.well,ice cubes doesnt like me even now.BUT,in eta i have a lot of gold.that doesnt stop they to ban me(even that i will said 4 ever that they were wrong then).what i want to say is this:u can love mods,u can hate them(althought its not really healty 4 your account to hate them).they make mistakes.but i dont think u can buy them with gold.maybe if u r friend with them(like jarp),u can have few accouints in one world,but im very sure that u cant buy them.anyway,if u want to cheat,u dont need gold,2 pcs or proxy is more than enough(i never knew what proxy is but i know they cant detect u and that its very slow).
 

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Apoll0911 said:
This is outrageous, how would you know that there multi-accounting, some people and alliances coordinate attacks, they are actually good at the game, just beacuse you get mass attacked does not mean it is by one person. People use skype, in-game chat and PM to coordinate attacks, believe it or not alliances and freinds will help you conquer!!!

Saying the mods lets this happen is plain, obviously stupid, Most of the mods play the game, they enjoy, it, they don't get payed, they do there work so that the game can run, and they know is to much cheating and hacking happens people will stop playing, and beacuse this is community game, the game will become boring. The mods are not stupid. They are not greedy little kids who need money for gold, they have/had jobs they have money(If they didn't there wouldn't be on the internet). SIGMs, and purple will be able to tell by the way to talk and what you have done previously, and thats the reason idiots who would abuse being a mod, don't become mods...
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You shouldn't have bothered with this Qlanders been trying to get Pheno players banned for ages without any proof or evidence except that we can time our attacks well... :rolleyes:
 

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rjc1107 said:
The mod's have there own agenda, and why would anyone trust them. Why would they not act on a report of someone cheating. A multi account cheater and all he gets is a ban for few days. sounds like the cheaters are paying off the mod's. Buying them some gold so they can keep there multi accounts.
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You'd do well not to make accusations that you can't qualify with evidence.

For every breach of rules ticket submitted, we investigate the reported account, and if any rule breaches have occurred, we act in the way that we're trained to.

Just because the reporter doesn't hear back what our action was, it doesn't mean that we've done nothing.
 

DeletedUser

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I do not want to be off topic, but there was another debate about this, which involved fiercely different views. Somehow, it was two players against all of the mods.
 

DeletedUser

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-Achilles- said:
You shouldn't have bothered with this Qlanders been trying to get Pheno players banned for ages without any proof or evidence except that we can time our attacks well... :rolleyes:
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seriosuly why u gotta make this thread another troll-fest?

Are you seriously demented or something? or do you really have a over-sense of importance that you got to make this thread about you and your alliance? This thread had NOTHING to do with pheno...please stop with the harrassment.

rjc1107 said:
The mod's have there own agenda, and why would anyone trust them. Why would they not act on a report of someone cheating. A multi account cheater and all he gets is a ban for few days. sounds like the cheaters are paying off the mod's. Buying them some gold so they can keep there multi accounts.
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Its not that black and white ....no they are not bribing them.....yes mods do have a hard time given the limited tools they have to detect these cases, yes mods do not what to ban everyone from the game, but com'on theres gotta be some reseblence of balance here

And please STOP GOING OFF TOPTIC! This is not about players who have such over-inflated ego's who have to come on here and make things personal or players who want to have a go at me (again) cos they got some perosnal problems. It is also not about how i have to 'prove' people are cheating, nor is it about anything else....its simple, in plain english even, This is about WHY mods allow or are so easy on cheaters?....temp bans are not deterants....It seems that if you get caught cheating, only 1 account gets banned and u can just go do it again.....

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You'd do well not to make accusations that you can't qualify with evidence.

For every breach of rules ticket submitted, we investigate the reported account, and if any rule breaches have occurred, we act in the way that we're trained to.

Just because the reporter doesn't hear back what our action was, it doesn't mean that we've done nothing.
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I agree that this is the proccess. It not that i dont think (or know) if anythign is done - its easy - atack/spy a play "Player is banned" = perm ban, but then on protest they get their account back? Obviosuly dont know all the info, but I also know when a player doesnt have access to their account due to a temp ban, yet can still be attacked - gotten several screenshots about it...I have my contacts/sources, I know who gets banned from them directly - i dont need to make up this crap, i got better things to do....If nothing is done about better tools for auto-detection, then this game will (again) fail.

Apoll0911 said:
This is outrageous, how would you know that there multi-accounting, some people and alliances coordinate attacks, they are actually good at the game, just beacuse you get mass attacked does not mean it is by one person. People use skype, in-game chat and PM to coordinate attacks, believe it or not alliances and freinds will help you conquer!!!...
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Sorry but how does this relate to this post? Perhaps you should stay on topic here and make your own thread about your own irrelevant discussion...This thread is NOT about coordinated attacks from alliances, this is about players who multi-account cheat. I have not named anyone, nor have I named any allaince so how do YOU know if I do or don't know who is cheating or not?

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DeletedUser

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I can assure you the mod team takes no pleasure in giving bans or infracting players. They are players who enjoy the game and want to contribute to the community. The support system currently works because of their hard work and commitment, so I find some comments in this thread very distasteful.

So what happens if a mod breaks the rules?
If this happens please contact me directly in the forum, or send a support ticket to me and request I take a look at this mod. Our mods are instructed to delegate these tickets to the SIGM, the Co-COMA or myself. Of course some evidence would help, but we can actually follow the mods actions quite closely, so it is not mandatory, in some cases.
The Mod will then be reviewed. His or her punishment will not be disclosed in public, just like any other ban that is given to a player. If the offence is extreme and was done with intent, the mod will be removed from the team. Rest assure we try to prevent this by spending a lot of time in our recruiting process.

The support team is here to balance the game and help players with their questions. The current team is doing a very good job, and please remember they are not here to harm you; They are players who want to help.
 

DeletedUser

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Grepolis has one of the best support systems in place. I left Evony because of the complete lack of moderation and the fact that most players multi-account and players were never banned. It was a relief to come here and find a community of players who were willing to give up their spare time to moderate the game and forums.

Even though I am one now I can honestly say these players care very much about the game and catching cheaters. Respect should be given to players that moderate not bashing them.

Also I do not even look at how much gold is being spend, it doesn't come into to.
 

DeletedUser

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I have reported players I knew were multi- accounting and provided what evidence I can, these players have been banned. I have every confidence in the mods and the mod system
 
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