I do enjoy a good debate or argument, its half the reason I play.
Ok well thank you but lets clarify.
The only ocean you drove TV out of was ocean 24, where only one of our players (kev the great) had any cities. Other then that we held our ground in ocean 45 and the only person who couldn't hold their cities up against the NWO and TC attacks was Kev. Otherwise it was me getting attacked by TC,NWO and TP and i always held up in ocean 25 which was by no means a TC controlled ocean when the war first broke out. in fairness we only had about 3 players based and 6 total in that ocean, but they all had a lot of cities up there between the 6 of them. But to say you "drove us out of your oceans" is a bit of an overstatement seeing as how we were never really in your oceans to begin with.
You can split hairs if you wish, but TC joined the war against TV and our attacks/conquests on any players we could reach helped result in your surrender to the coalition. TV were removed from O24, then marginalised in O25 whatever way you look at it. The rest is just gravy, TV performance has been admirable under difficult circumstances, then and since. My statement that we removed you from our oceans is factually correct but was not intended as an insult or slight.
Hellion you simply haven't been playing long enough to do anything notable. But well since you come onto the forums so much and talk kinda big...well its kind of annoying really. Truth is we all know that The Cohort is not the most skilled alliance in theta. But they've found a system of fighting that works for them. They have sheer numbers and that is one of the big keys to how they do it. "Elite" level skill has never been their way, and well it doesn't have to be that way with every alliance that is good.
In reality, this notion of "elite" skill rarely if ever exists. For 2 years I have seen the best that Theta has, such as Coblet (only mentioned as an example) and others attack. Many efforts have been shall we say, unexpectedly lacking any "elite" quality, ironically given your comments, what
I HAVE seen is
weight of numbers used a lot by so called "elites".
Though I have never doubted the abililty of players such as Coblet and jason1118 etc, whose
stats speak for themselves, they are no more "elite" than any other decent players, such as some that reside in TC for instance. Its an illusion that so called "elite" alliances/players like to paint while looking down on others.
What are these supposed elite alliances/players supposed to be able to do that others cannot? I would love an explanation of what "skills" these are?
I have only ever considered myself average, which is perhaps interesting, given that others DO consider themselves "elite".
But I cannot think of anything in 2 years I have seen that TC or myself are not capable of to greater or lesser extent.
Just because someones stats are not huge doesnt mean they have less "skill", it can just as easily mean they play a different way or are less active, or maybe not been around as long.
All it needs to rack up huge BPs is activity and time, not "elite" skill, though of course that can certainly help ;-) Grepolis is not rocket science, dispite what some "elites" try to make it out as. Its a game and executing the basics consistantly over a period of time will result in the type of huge BP stats many "elite" players have. Does their willingness or committment to achieve that make them "elite", perhaps, or maybe they just have a bit more time and/or gold than others ;-)
Eve, why are you even responding to Hellion? its pointless. He's not going to change his mind on anything. He's likely just trying to rile people up and see if he can get some attacks. And frankly, while i respect the patience you must have as a leader to deal with all those newer players, it sure was nice to sort of skirt around the bad decisions and whatnot made by TC while only addressing the good things. From what i remember your involvement in the NWO war was limited...due to you going into VM after being attacked,only to come when everyone in NWO had gone inactive. And as for the "TV joined and then some things happened" lets just be honest. It was a scam conducted by me, Akazmier and Paul s to start a war with NWO. So the three of us basically killed NWO without ever having to attack anything, though paul did do some attacking lol.
FYI, I went into VM because my mother was diagnosed with Cancer, and I was attending hospital with her and supporting my family through an extremely difficult time, it had ZERO to do with an online game I play for fun.
Prior to the VM you speak of, the ONLY cities NWO took from me were from a satelite colony in the far east of O34 deep into NWO territory (ironically set up to defend NWO). I didnt even try to defend the cities other than with what was there to snipe CS's (which I did many times. I actually ordered our alliance NOT to send support because while QND/NWO was fixated on me, they were not concentrating on the rest of TC
When I returned from VM, the big hitters were very much STILL around and I was involved in the fighting, so your grasp of history is flawed to say the least Jason. QnD, 5150, allicient among others, they all tried to take my cities after I came back, but basically failed once they started to hit cities I actually wanted to defend. So I dont take kindly to your entirely incorrect version of events, in particular the suggestion I went into VM because I was attacked.
Its worth pointing out after all the above, that I have never boasted about my own achievements or ability, though I may mention these as part of a conversation such as this... But I have always made it clear that I dont consider myself among the best, Im not a "fighter" because that is not why I play this game. My comments in the other post only served to highlight just how bad 'Hellanobody' is because he called into question my record and that of TC.
I do agree there is no need to respond to 'Hellabella' as he rarely makes sense or has anything constructive to say, I did stop responding to him a long while back, but this latest set of preposterous posts from him and Calli required a reply.
Jason you are trying to paint paul/TC as somehow part of this scheme you had to create war with NWO, unless you can prove otherwise your just stiring things up now you are leaving PnP style. There was a deal made, but not the one you describe at all. It is good of you to admit in these externals what most suspected anyway regarding you and akaz's plans. But TC play things straight and true, simple as that.
Now the game is over, most of what goes on has become a farce, ghosts and inactives everywhere so its all just pointless and we are treading water to the end. It has indeed been fun and I wish everyone the best.
That is all...
Ev