My last post regarding this subject
1) We were pacted with Savages who fell away long before we did ,yet were they accused or their leaders for handing cities off to WC. Their leaders also folded their alliance , some of their members left joined TVG in fact as we stood by our pact agreement until the end, never taking a city off them which we could have.
2) No city was handed off, Holgard fell to TEE because all the def. was used sniping a cs on a members city on the same island, which was saved, alas i couldn't rebuild quickly enough to defend my own city and got no support.Serkland WC knew as being attacked and WC actually had two revolts in before TEE did, is it my fault you didn't take before TEE's cs, not sure that can be classed as handing off, i'm sure if you look at the def. rankings for that day it proves anything but.
3) I believe i gave my best shot with TVG, other leaders left frustrated at events , i stayed until the last co-leader left. I then due to RL commitments and work decided that i did not have the time to lead it alone, nor the desire.
The days of taking on pre-mades have gone, there simply aren't enough experienced players to be able to build an alliance good enough to take on 2 pre-mades at once, thats not anti-pre-made its just a fact.
I play for fun, and as the betting advert says , when it stops being fun stop, trying to make TVG work was no longer fun. If i was wrong to feel frustrated after spending over 10 hrs a day trying to make it work then fine i failed , them and myself.
As i said my last comment on this, so carry on , i wont feed your posts as unless you can prove me wrong and try and do better, then i don't feel i should have too.
Regards.