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Disastor today at 07:43
First, I said that You would be taking in “Refugees” if you recruited the listed players…But BE was at war with them…we can recruit our own targets. If we were to recruit an enemy of yours during your attacks on them, we would be wrong to take in refugees…you seem to make a habit of it. Ref. kutchy…recruited while four of his cities were under revolt by BE players.
Next, you say that the attacks by Banipal on REGINAR’s city were a minor matter…that issue resolved itself between the two of them…the matter is not minor however, since it had been agreed to in the pact agreement that SF would NOT take cities in O46. The attempt of an SF player to take a city in O46 was a violation of that agreement.
As for your taking skellletor…well, you didn’t he was still our enemy and I was given the following conversation by a member within your so called new alliance SF3. Notice that you are identified and paraphrased:
Author has written the following:
[2/4/2012 10:38:47 PM] grasshopper san: right now there is an option for anyone who wants to join bullseye
[2/4/2012 10:38:53 PM] grasshopper san: i think a few can join SF
[2/4/2012 10:39:02 PM] grasshopper san: and some have joined olympus returned
[2/4/2012 10:39:15 PM] grasshopper san: i wanted to tlak to you and tom before making my decision hwere i go
[2/4/2012 10:39:22 PM] skellletor: Spartan told me as soon as war is declared against BE youm pir and stephen can join SF
It seems to me that you have plans to backstab us and were recruiting to gain position on us…you combine this conversation with the attempt by Banipal to take a city in O46. It seems that you have every intention of making the war happen sooner rather than later.
Finally, you talk of communications….in which way did you attempt to contact me about your plans to make TSL into your third alliance…the only thing we saw was that TSL had made a name change…we got no notification from anyone in SF recognizing the new SF3…nor did we receive any pact request from the supposed new ally.
Beyond that, I can only think of two reasons for have Grasshopper change the name…beyond the idea that he would retain those still in VM to remove the ability of those players to make the choice to join or go elsewhere when or if they return, he could have been just too lazy to go through proper steps of disbanding and reforming, which would have ended the war declaration at the very moment he hit the disband button. The second reasonable answer would be to attempt to make BE look as if we were “attacking” an ally while under a pact. Grasshopper may have many traits, but in my experience, he has never demonstrated that he is devious enough to think of that on his own. So, I would have to lay the scheme at someone else’s feet. And since it seems that you had plans of attacking an allied partner, I have no choice but to lay that scheme at your feet.
So, if it is your intention to go to war with BE/UP/UE….screw up your courage and do it. I’ve had enough your slinking around trying to play puppet master with TSL. I know and respect many within your ranks of SF…I know that there is a chance that SF could beat us in a war, but I would rather that they did it openly and with honor…you dishonor yourself and your alliance members by your actions.
spartan-fury today at 04:48
quote from you:
I don't think it's a big deal if some do move over...like piranah or Marcus, but Skellletor, Tyrant tom, Grasshopper and Stephen would be coming over to you as refugees...just thought would want to know that.
because you guys recruited a banned refugee, then it is fair game for me to do the same. this is pretty simple mate. you guys were in the wrong for taking in II-STEV3N.
and as far as tsl changing the name of the alliance, it was easier than dissolving alliance and opening new one, but what the heck, if that is really such an issue, then that is what we will do. it was just far easier to change name than to send out all the invites and such.
and lastly, the issue with banipal is microscopic in comparison to what you guys have done to skellletor who you knew very well was joining us. i kept him in sf3 cuz.....why not?? we already agreed that he would be joining us!
there is a major lack of communication on your alliances part, we have honored the pact all along and now you try and turn these errors around as if it was us dishonoring the pact!! lol.
i am still willing to talk and negotiate and cant wait to hear your response.
Disastor on 2012-02-06 at 18:12
Spartan-fury
I believe we have a pact with standing rules to that pact.
1. You are supporting the members of an alliance that you know we are at war with…the so called Shadows Fall 3. By changing their name doesn’t make them anything but an old alliance that changed their name…to us they are still The Shadow League, and we will treat them as such. If they had the brain enough to dissolve the former allaince and reform under the new allaince as Shadows Fall 3, they may have had a leg to stand on diplomatically, but just changing their name is meaningless.
2. Banipal is attempting to take a city in O46 by attacking REGINAR. This violates both your pact agreement that no cities will be taken by SF in O46 and he is attacking an allied partner.
3. The “List” that you eluded to in your skype message to me was a list of players that you should or should not take into SF…II-Steph3n was on the list of players we didn’t want you to take; skellletor was a name that you were offered up as a possible candidate. However, you didn’t take skellletor so he is being hit as a part of the formerly named The Shadow League.; and in no way did I say that we wouldn’t take any of the listed names.
If it is your intention to continue to violate our pact, at least have the decency to nullify our pact in advance. If you still intend on protecting refugees against us…I will consider it an act of war and will treat the situation as such
Disastor
