Best Player in Alpha

DeletedUser

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Including Queen Cleopatra? Really?

for the record, I do not consider Iceman a sim city player. He has earned my respect in and out of this game.
 

DeletedUser

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if ice man hasnt earned you respect i dont know who can, if he was a sim city player someone would have beaten first place out of him with troops, seeing as that hasnt happened hes obviously held his own
 

DeletedUser

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if ice man hasnt earned you respect i dont know who can, if he was a sim city player someone would have beaten first place out of him with troops, seeing as that hasnt happened hes obviously held his own

To be fair, Iceman had an advantage out of the gate that most players did not. He was able to leverage Innogames generosity with gold paid to their volunteer staffers to gain a sizable lead. Granted, he has grown with his BP though he holds a 71st ranking in total BP, which just means people tend to not attack him since he is 28th in BPA.

With his city count lead through May of last year, he was able to use his exhaustive experience playing these Innogames to efficiently grow his account through more traditional means. I think I can learn a lot about how to effectively run City Festivals at a shorter interval.

Iceman clearly deserves our respect, and he should be considered for the exceptional skill he has used and the benefits of Gold that assisted him. The total player is key here.
 

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yah but i know of so many other players who use gold, granted i dont, but its part of the game. more power to them, we do have to thank players like him for keeping innogames in business
 

DeletedUser

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yah but i know of so many other players who use gold, granted i dont, but its part of the game. more power to them, we do have to thank players like him for keeping innogames in business

I use gold for the administrative overview . . . it definitely helps me in the maintenance of my account. I do not think Innogames gives a hoot about how much gold we purchase. Heck if they have 1000 players buying 1500 gold each month, then that is $15990 USD per month for one server. I would love to see their breakdown of premium accounts per server.
 

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@LordStuart, if you look at his colonization stats, besides the cities he gave away, most are from The Agoge System.
 

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A new alliance

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I am the refugee I that is in question here but that is no longer the case as i have quit the game .

I am the architect of Echo Squad and I know them better than most.

There are some quality fearless members in Echo Squad who were outstanding agressive players , some of there attacking play is second to none . Players such as dongkidoy , eminem007 , maxiromulous , om4ever2009 , Curious Badger , Ioannus , TishT .

Unfortunatley they turned on me and i'll be honest it was very difficult to take especially as it was not some faceless alliance that was attacking me it was my what I thought were grepolis mates.

I totally accept that this is a war game so I should suck it up and take the hits however there is more to the story than that

When Echo Squad formed they asked me to join but as in life i am a loyal person and I vowed to stay true to Orthia . I recieved numerous messages from Wanax and mike bishop and others wishing me well and that we would be friends forever etc.

Wanax was always at a loss as to how I constantly outranked him in all fronts despite him being a full premium player I was ranked 13th I was the 5th ranked attacker and the tenth best fighter overall . I guess he found a way to pass me in the rankings ......

I had a friendship with Mike Bishop which developed when I spared him this was also the case with Lord Kp . I also saved pentagrams when he was booted and trained and supported him and there are numerous other types of examples of this . I had lead all these guys into battle at one stage or another .

This is not a top alliance its not even close , we wont see them engage in a genuine war as most of there quality players are based in the southern oceans and the ones based in the northern half of there territory are pretty much useless . The will continue to grow through aquiring inactives or isolating targets that have no chance of defending themselves so although you may not have heard of them fear not the larger alliances have nothing to worry about

You will find Wanax is a bit of a narcissist and does as been suggested hide behind his alliance and if you read his posts you will see a desperatley needy player that craves attention and adoration hence him trolling this thread and yes I am bitter , this was a great release for me to play this for a few hours every day . I am at home caring for both my parents that became very ill very suddenly and despite Wanax and Mike bishop and Lord Kp knowing this they still attacked ..... not the actions of the best players or alliance
 

DeletedUser13539

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Damn.........

Where have peoples ethics gone.................?
 

DeletedUser

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Damn.........

Where have peoples ethics gone.................?

I am not sure what you mean man. There are always those whose self-interest outweigh their concern for anyone else. Lets all be honest here . . . this game is going to boil down to where 1-3 players own an ocean and alliances will become less structured.

I give wanax props for seeing this and his willingness to leach off of others. I just hope he does not get bored and quite before he makes it to my neck of the woods.
 

DeletedUser13539

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Sure, that is clear and understandable, but to turn on someone like that, knowing vital information, and who were once ally's, "friends". It is just a shame for something like that to happen.

An alliance against alliance and their diplomatic/political efforts are usually orientated differently and have no bearing ultimately on personal relationships or ally's, but in this case it has nothing to do with that.

I just find it sad the way dave portray's it.

I also feel playing the game just to hide behind other players instead of exapanding to take over other oceans to be a shame. I am not saying Wanax is doing this, just that I would get bored as hell playing this game that way.
 

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blahblahblah

I was waiting for this post and it's not a coincidence that it appears now. As usual this is a very one-sided and narrow-minded representation of facts, presented by a, logically, frustrated man.

I have no intention to make this a long discussion, because due all my experience with them (Master-instigator and word-twister Sch01ar included) this has proven to be a waste of time.

But for the sake of Echo Squadron I want to present some facts:

Eminem077 and I decided to leave Orthia for 2 reasons: 1) leadership was only busy with their own things and there was no communication and definitely no desire to improve the alliance and 2) we were tired of world politics and wanted to play local.

As soon as we left we got a bunch of invite request from ex_orthians. We accepted about half of them and unfortunately had to turn down the other half because of locality issues.

We decided to learn from Orthia's mistakes and keep the alliance small, make it democratic (that was a new concept compared to Orthia) and again, local.

Dave has never received an invitation, nor would he have gotten one. There were too many players (including myself) who have had serious fights with him while in Orthia and many people threatened to leave if he would come. Maybe some have written him for friendship, but I have never written him a single letter and certainly not to call him a friend, because, simply we weren’t.

Being a democracy, we plan our actions together and members come up with plans for targets and we vote about it. One of our main votes was to secure ocean 77 where Dave was the biggest player. Almost unanimously this passed the vote. This was, for me at least, not personal, but strictly strategic. I can’t blame people when they think otherwise.

We thought he would appreciate this honor, because he was always bragging what a huge warrior he was and that he was bored that no one wanted to attack him (even left Orthia briefly for that). As soon as we started attacking him, we got loads of cheers, compliments and offers for support from many people outside of our alliance (even from inside Orthia!). And sch01ar, who 3 weeks before that, begged me in a PM to come back to help him save ‘HIS’ alliance, wrote us a friendly message where he told us we were scum. But he didn’t know that we had some loyal followers in Orthia (There were not spies; just some persons who didn’t agree) that both Dave and Sch01ar asked for war against us. That was before we even attacked Dave. We simply were first. Nice to be willing to attack your friends!

After he switched to TW-S, the battle continued, but not after we got some very angry, frustrated messages with lots of F-words, where he wished us and our families the most terrible things.

Well, Dave, you got your wishes, congratulations! I'm forced to quit the game soon due to serious health issues and my sister in law just was diagnosed leukemia. You must be ecstatic about this! It certainly fits your persona.

On to some other pertinent lies/inconsistensies:
- The fact that you parents were ill, was unknown to me. You only wrote that in your colorful goodbye message. I’m honestly sorry for this, but this has nothing to do with the game.
- I started premium when I hit 45 cities and only ever used administrator and captain
- Dave names a lot of people excellent players, and I certainly won't deny that, but why didn't he ever make the effort to write them back when they had questions for him back in Orthia?
- Why does he call me narcissistic when every opportunity he got as a Senator you’d hear the words: “I’m the Senator and they are all pure e. They should realize they are playing for us”. (literally copied from a message he sent me)
- If I hide behind my alliance, how come I’m present in 7 oceans and battling at 4 fronts at the same time? Could that be the reason that I score an average of 100K bpa each month?
- The myth that we conquer inactives is stubborn and false. Why are these players inactive? Where do our bps come from? We are ranked 8th in bpa list for an alliance that’s 3 months old. Could it just be, that we knocked the people inactive? Even Dave, must know about this, but I guess you always take the things that explain your own words the best.

I could go on, but I think it’s better I stop here. I just wanted to tell part of my side of the story before others start to judge me, and even worse, Echo Squadron and its members, based on these false accusations. I expect responses with the same lies again and especially some nasty remarks from sch01ar. It’s fine by me. You won’t hear from me again. If anyone would like to know more about some of the stuff that happened, I can supply names of impartial persons outside of Echo Squadron who can back me up in almost everything stated here. But maybe it’s the best for everyone not to waste their time to this.

I wish everyone the best, in RL and in the game. Maybe we’ll meet again some day.
 
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Stunning ...... abseloutley stunning you really are one messed up bloke you have fabricated that web of crap out of nothing

"where he wished us and our families the most terrible things." This is an out and out lie

As for us not being mates ?

Here's some transcripts from skype

and congrats again well deserved
[20/04/2011 17:29:22] wanax: thx, man. appreciate it.
[23/04/2011 19:04:22] wanax: hey bro, not bedtime yet?
[16/05/2011 17:03:18] daveyboylegend: time to recruit perhaps ?
[16/05/2011 17:04:17] daveyboylegend: if we recruite nets and got him to concentrate on vipers cities ?
[16/05/2011 17:05:01] wanax: I can try again. Last time he rejected. SAme with bloodyeffing.
[16/05/2011 17:05:14] wanax: They have some sense of loyalty
[16/05/2011 17:05:56] daveyboylegend: dude they are circling the drain and they know it
[16/05/2011 17:06:12] wanax: Yep, doesn't take much more for them to quit
[16/05/2011 17:06:22] daveyboylegend: bloddy aint the worst player in the world
[16/05/2011 17:06:47] wanax: nope and a nice guy too. he just doesn't want to leave the smaller players
[16/05/2011 17:07:23] wanax: We could use some help against AJ though. His cities are too far away and he's a cunning player
[16/05/2011 17:08:01] daveyboylegend: now your talking that spinless self promoting AHole needs to be thought a lesson
[16/05/2011 17:08:49] daveyboylegend: Im around a while and I talk off the record to a few guys in synergy , he is making himself out to b e the spartan 100
[16/05/2011 17:09:18] daveyboylegend: He's advertised that he came off vacation and informed us
[16/05/2011 17:09:23] wanax: I think he has serious mental problems
[16/05/2011 17:09:35] wanax: Not a joke
[16/05/2011 17:09:42] daveyboylegend: jesus I wish I was closer to the fkr
[16/05/2011 17:10:18] wanax: Problem is that everyone in 87/88 is so focused on DoL. They want to attack him but not with everything they have
[16/05/2011 17:10:24] daveyboylegend: We need a good war , everyone is getting bored
[16/05/2011 17:10:39] wanax: I'm very busy trying to convince everyone
[16/05/2011 17:10:59] daveyboylegend: you are doing a class job bro
[16/05/2011 17:11:11] wanax: Thx, we have such a good team
[16/05/2011 17:11:15] daveyboylegend: option 1
[16/05/2011 17:12:43] daveyboylegend: if you recruit the DOL guys in 87 and leave it to run its natural course , cause lets be honest weve won this war . Then perhaps the guys can concentrate on AJ and synergy
[16/05/2011 17:12:52] daveyboylegend: option 2
[16/05/2011 17:13:08] daveyboylegend: We start a war with unity ...
[16/05/2011 17:13:31] wanax: LOL! That 2nd one came as a surprise!
[16/05/2011 17:13:38] daveyboylegend: he he
[16/05/2011 17:14:00] wanax: Don't think we have to fear Unity as much. They have a few players in 97 and that's it.
[16/05/2011 17:15:04] wanax: Option 1 is a good one, but there are limits. Many people in our team don't want new players, because they feel we have something special now. Something elite
[16/05/2011 17:15:49] wanax: I can understand him and I don't know why not more players from 75 and 66 move to the core. Can't he or DCW order that?
[16/05/2011 17:15:50] daveyboylegend: I hear you
[16/05/2011 17:16:08] wanax: 66=76
[16/05/2011 17:17:21] daveyboylegend: look at the top ten players .. you ( 58 cities !!! ) me , alex ( love the guy ) , danz ,tink madmogga !! all boardering each other !!
[16/05/2011 17:17:49] daveyboylegend: Iamdcw
[16/05/2011 17:17:59] wanax: Yep, this team is great. I like Alex and Tink!
[16/05/2011 17:18:15] wanax: I think Tink should take over foxtrot when dogwayne leaves
[16/05/2011 17:18:33] daveyboylegend: Ah man alex and Tink are brilliant
[16/05/2011 17:18:50] daveyboylegend: Tink has been class
[16/05/2011 17:19:09] wanax: He's active, funny, intelligent and a real team player
[16/05/2011 17:19:16] daveyboylegend: has vmribiereo given up
[16/05/2011 17:19:54] wanax: Not yet, but I think he will soon. He hardly plays anymore. I'm trying my best, but RL weighs on him too hard
[16/05/2011 17:20:28] wanax: BTW: I will be going into VM from may 24th till june 7th.
[16/05/2011 17:21:18] daveyboylegend: man he was some player ... I still feel guilty that I him off , what about danz ?
[16/05/2011 17:21:50] daveyboylegend: Cool shall take the helm for a bit ?
[16/05/2011 17:22:05] wanax: Danz is still active. I think ribeiro himself off.
[16/05/2011 17:22:30] wanax: Yep, that would be great. Your biggest job will be to get EM on a leash! :D
[16/05/2011 17:22:35] daveyboylegend: or how about mike ? that guy is one loyal soldier ! he'd be chuffed if you asked him
[16/05/2011 17:23:24] wanax: Mike is more a follower than a leader. An excellent example of a second in command
[16/05/2011 17:23:35] wanax: He's very good at that
[16/05/2011 17:23:36] daveyboylegend: You gotta love EM he's your man
[16/05/2011 17:23:48] daveyboylegend: ya give it to EM
[16/05/2011 17:24:16] wanax: I love him, but he's a pitbull. Let him free and he eats everything, including his own team mates
[16/05/2011 17:24:28] daveyboylegend: There's no I in team , but there's an EM
[16/05/2011 17:24:32] wanax: LOL
[16/05/2011 17:25:12] wanax: The problem with him is that he only thinks about his own consequence and not about how his actions might affect others.
[16/05/2011 17:25:28] daveyboylegend: ya he loves the kill
[16/05/2011 17:25:39] daveyboylegend: what ever you think bro
[16/05/2011 17:26:15] wanax: He and Mad are just killing machines that you have to point in the right direction and then they are the absolute best
[16/05/2011 17:26:15] daveyboylegend: Ive been chatting to katie 16
[16/05/2011 17:26:29] wanax: Yeah, what was that situation?
[16/05/2011 17:27:04] daveyboylegend: she's been really trying to get near 76/77/86/87
[16/05/2011 17:27:23] daveyboylegend: I kinda been looking after her one to one etc
[16/05/2011 17:27:37] wanax: Can be very rewarding!
[16/05/2011 17:28:25] daveyboylegend: not that ive been pictucturing a hot 17 yrd old something ...
[16/05/2011 17:28:31] daveyboylegend: lol
[16/05/2011 17:28:44] wanax: LMAO! Dirty old man!
[16/05/2011 17:29:14] daveyboylegend: I was asking her why colonize so far away ?
[16/05/2011 17:29:32] daveyboylegend: she figures it closer to the core of Orthia !
[16/05/2011 17:29:50] daveyboylegend: and do you know what ... she's right
[16/05/2011 17:29:54] wanax: LOL! In a way we are
[16/05/2011 17:30:16] daveyboylegend: Wanax its a fact ... we are the core of this alliance
[16/05/2011 17:30:40] wanax: Yep, I think so too. That's why we can't quit!
[16/05/2011 17:31:06] daveyboylegend: not you and I but the whole team ! , have you read the other divisions ....
[16/05/2011 17:31:25] daveyboylegend: its like going on the in deadwood
[16/05/2011 17:31:39] daveyboylegend: ( dunno where that reference came from _)
[16/05/2011 17:32:17] wanax: Yep, I know you meant the team. But there are some really good ppl in Foxtrot too
[16/05/2011 17:32:32] wanax: Alpha en Beta are dying
[16/05/2011 17:33:23] daveyboylegend: sorry foxtrot and echo are like twin brothers were inextricably linked
[16/05/2011 17:33:36] wanax: Exactly
[16/05/2011 17:33:46] daveyboylegend: jesus I think I spelt that correctly
[16/05/2011 17:34:00] wanax: LOL! by accident?
[16/05/2011 17:34:07] daveyboylegend: no ... lol
[16/05/2011 17:35:40] daveyboylegend: again its 12.35 am , Im just back from the 118th floor bar in the gand plaza in Hong Kong and my bit of fluff is pawing at me to turn off the light whilst I tell her I have to send these emails ..... lmao
[16/05/2011 17:36:09] wanax: LMAO! 12 hr time difference between us
[16/05/2011 17:36:14] daveyboylegend: now she doesnt belive me cause im laugking to myself
[16/05/2011 17:36:22] daveyboylegend: and ;lasinr #a
[16/05/2011 17:36:23] daveyboylegend: SAD'LKIN CGF
[16/05/2011 17:36:24] daveyboylegend: ]AWSA
[16/05/2011 17:36:24] daveyboylegend: FD
[16/05/2011 17:36:24] daveyboylegend: 2vgm
[16/05/2011 17:36:25] daveyboylegend: ]vg[
[16/05/2011 17:36:25] daveyboylegend: #]adsfgb
[16/05/2011 17:36:26] daveyboylegend: ]d
[16/05/2011 17:36:27] daveyboylegend: ]fb[od
[16/05/2011 17:36:27] daveyboylegend: ]fwgbl
[16/05/2011 17:37:02] wanax: Dude, I really appreciate all the advice you give. I might not always follow them, but I it's very helpful!
[16/05/2011 17:37:03] daveyboylegend: sorry mate she just started to bash at my keyboard Id bette rsign off
[16/05/2011 17:37:17] daveyboylegend: 'lkSFB
[16/05/2011 17:37:17] daveyboylegend: [LOJ
[16/05/2011 17:37:18] daveyboylegend: s[dfb3ojSDF
[16/05/2011 17:37:18] daveyboylegend: [5Z 1WVBOJsf
[16/05/2011 17:37:19] daveyboylegend: [bd5vojS
[16/05/2011 17:37:19] daveyboylegend: F[OVBJ
[16/05/2011 17:37:19 | Edited 17:37:20] daveyboylegend: ef[oa\xvstghb{@?O mujEBwx$
[16/05/2011 17:37:20 | Edited 17:37:22] daveyboylegend: ]D E1WNJ
[16/05/2011 17:37:22] daveyboylegend: ]dfrx5esk7b
[16/05/2011 17:37:23] daveyboylegend: '\bxf
[16/05/2011 17:37:35] wanax: Ok, good night then! :)
[16/05/2011 17:37:41] daveyboylegend: game is up gotts go
[16/05/2011 17:37:45] daveyboylegend: lmao
[16/05/2011 17:37:49] wanax: LMAO

We were mates you stabbed me in the back plain and simple
 
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