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Huh?
Wasnt talking about that, just commenting on your forum activity following your 'departure'
 

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My Top 12

Wow! This was supposed to be a sink or swim thread;i better get back to the topic.

1. Quality over Quantity FLOAT
Corruption has been revealed eventually more bans will happen but the only alliance that may want to come into 65 would be rubber bullets (This will change they can't even decide on a name) so i give them a FLOAT but soon they will SINK.

2+3.Eviction Notice SWIM or FLOAT
They will SWIM unless the bloods get there arses into gear,organize and start fighting back. The bloods have the numbers to give EN a run for their money in this case they will FLOAT

4+7+8+11 (and 15). Bloods SINK or FLOAT
As i said above they have the numbers to fight EN but do they have the organization? If yes FLOAT If No SINK

5. Rubber Bullets SWIM
No competition! QoQ Corruption everybody else far too far away.

6. The Hammer SWIM
Kings of the rim!!!

9.Independent FLOAT
They're getting absolutely hammered but they can clearly take a beating so for that reason i say FLOAT.

10.Hounddogs SWIM
Don't seem to be having any problems; I think they might be in bed with EN

12.TUATHA SINK
Bit like the bloods an MRA fighting an organized enemy but i dont think they have a chance; I can deal with the Bloods but TUATHA is just too big an MRA.

Hope you enjoyed my Top 12 :)
 
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Wow! This was supposed to be a sink or swim thread;i better get back to the topic.

1. Quality over Quantity FLOAT
Corruption has been revealed eventually more bans will happen but the only alliance that may want to come into 65 would be rubber bullets (This will change they can't even decide on a name) so i give them a FLOAT but soon they will SINK.

2+3.Eviction Notice SWIM or FLOAT
They will SWIM unless the bloods get there arses into gear,organize and start fighting back. The bloods have the numbers to give EN a run for their money in this case they will FLOAT

4+7+8+11 (and 15). Bloods SINK or FLOAT
As i said above they have the numbers to fight EN but do they have the organization? If yes FLOAT If No SINK

5. Rubber Bullets SWIM
No competition! QoQ Corruption everybody else far too far away.

6. The Hammer SWIM
Kings of the rim!!!

9.Independent FLOAT
They're getting absolutely hammered but they can clearly take a beating so for that reason i say FLOAT.

10.Hounddogs SWIM
Don't seem to be having any problems; I think they might be in bed with EN

12.TUATHA SINK
Bit like the bloods an MRA fighting an organized enemy but i dont think they have a chance; I can deal with the Bloods but TUATHA is just too big an MRA.

Hope you enjoyed my Top 12 :)

What is this? QoQ are showing their dominance; as for corruption, i don't think you've been reading the externals correctly as people are saying EN is corrupted for having mods in their alliance etc; Hounddogs are officially EN, where have you been for 3 months? Independant aren't actually getting hit too hard by EN as EN have been hitting bloods, plain to see. As for the city totals; bloods have taken about 60 cities or something around there (most being laxbro's cities) and EN have taken 250.. not looking too good on a long term thing there for bloods. If you have paid attention to what QoQ are doing, it is not going into O65, QoQ are pushing a little east into O75, north into O64, west in O55 and north-west into O54.

Rubber Bullets or shapeshifters are great players, spoke to many of them, they have their own thing going on in O56 and is already their battleground, O66 is not their priority, you're being bias towards them and top 12's should avert away from bias as if you didn't it would turn into more of a pissing act more than it already is to who has the bigger sword.
 

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thanks for all the generous praise guys :rolleyes:
 
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DeletedUser21287

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What numbers are u on about....

WIB 1, 2, 3, 4 and five and QOQ.... all in bed together... so dont whine about numbers...

not in bed at all. there are still players attacking each other however it seems a common enemy is more popular :)
 

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Incoming top 12; includes pictures and pretty colours; stay tuned for banter.
 

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What is this? QoQ are showing their dominance; as for corruption, i don't think you've been reading the externals correctly as people are saying EN is corrupted for having mods in their alliance etc; Hounddogs are officially EN, where have you been for 3 months? Independant aren't actually getting hit too hard by EN as EN have been hitting bloods, plain to see. As for the city totals; bloods have taken about 60 cities or something around there (most being laxbro's cities) and EN have taken 250.. not looking too good on a long term thing there for bloods. If you have paid attention to what QoQ are doing, it is not going into O65, QoQ are pushing a little east into O75, north into O64, west in O55 and north-west into O54.

Rubber Bullets or shapeshifters are great players, spoke to many of them, they have their own thing going on in O56 and is already their battleground, O66 is not their priority, you're being bias towards them and top 12's should avert away from bias as if you didn't it would turn into more of a pissing act more than it already is to who has the bigger sword.

Tables turn my friend. a couple of weeks ago we couldn't take 1 EN city, now they are beginning to fall. Yes most are Laxbros but they had the opportunity to defend him and seemingly did not. Out of those 250 you mention we could back track to see how many of those were inactives and eaten internally. don't get me wrong they have taken many good players cities, ratio of actives taken to inactives in EN's favour. However if you check the past week or two the ratio between the 2 you will see much closer results and they will get closer. No idea who the rubber bullets are however an enemy of 1 blood will naturally become en enemy of us all. So any forward progress currently going on in 56 will soon be put to a halt. Our main threat is QOQ as we understandably cannot fight 4 fronts without severe losses so the world and our position in it does depend on where their next move is.

are we organised? Your damn right we are :)
 
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Tables turn my friend. a couple of weeks ago we couldn't take 1 EN city, now they are beginning to fall. Yes most are Laxbros but they had the opportunity to defend him and seemingly did not. Out of those 250 you mention we could back track to see how many of those were inactives and eaten internally. don't get me wrong they have taken many good players cities, ratio of actives taken to inactives in EN's favour. However if you check the past week or two the ratio between the 2 you will see much closer results and they will get closer. No idea who the rubber bullets are however an enemy of 1 blood will naturally become en enemy of us all. So any forward progress currently going on in 56 will soon be put to a halt. Our main threat is QOQ as we understandably cannot fight 4 fronts without severe losses so the world and our position in it does depend on where their next move is.

are we organised? Your damn right we are :)

Grepointel was down so only had previous weeks' conquers, will have a cheeky look around for my top 12 and re-evaluate if the numbers are congruent with what you're saying.
 

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Tables turn my friend. a couple of weeks ago we couldn't take 1 EN city, now they are beginning to fall. Yes most are Laxbros but they had the opportunity to defend him and seemingly did not. Out of those 250 you mention we could back track to see how many of those were inactives and eaten internally. don't get me wrong they have taken many good players cities, ratio of actives taken to inactives in EN's favour. However if you check the past week or two the ratio between the 2 you will see much closer results and they will get closer. No idea who the rubber bullets are however an enemy of 1 blood will naturally become en enemy of us all. So any forward progress currently going on in 56 will soon be put to a halt. Our main threat is QOQ as we understandably cannot fight 4 fronts without severe losses so the world and our position in it does depend on where their next move is.

are we organised? Your damn right we are :)

You rather contradict yourself. Accusing someone of taking your inactives, and then claim you are organised. one of the key organisational aspects of any alliance is dealing with your own internals.

And no, drstrangelove was active (initially), snitch was active, batman was active.. list goes on.

And no, you really cant count Lax's cities as some sort of victory :D

And the last couple of weeks, if you look at all blood branches stats, if thats your idea of "close" then you really havnt set your aims too high :D

You took a bunch from Lax, ooh, and you took 4 from an inactive in the form of Relapse v4.20. Ive taken 5 in the last few days from bloods on my own.
 
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You rather contradict yourself. Accusing someone of taking your inactives, and then claim you are organised. one of the key organisational aspects of any alliance is dealing with your own internals.

And no, drstrangelove was active (initially), snitch was active, batman was active.. list goes on.

And no, you really cant count Lax's cities as some sort of victory :D

And the last couple of weeks, if you look at all blood branches stats, if thats your idea of "close" then you really havnt set your aims too high :D

You took a bunch from Lax, ooh, and you took 4 from an inactive in the form of Relapse v4.20. Ive taken 5 in the last few days from bloods on my own.

Don't mind me, just passing through and saw this??

Really dim? You're crowing about adding 5 more EN cities to a world? After everything that was said in Eubea forum about HERT using EN tactic? After everything that was said in Sinope forum about Coming Soon using EN tactic?

Does that not leave a bad taste in your mouth? Shame on you, I'd rather get rimmed by Gene Simmons than join EN, you just lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned now. :rolleyes:
 

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Don't mind me, just passing through and saw this??

Really dim? You're crowing about adding 5 more EN cities to a world? After everything that was said in Eubea forum about HERT using EN tactic? After everything that was said in Sinope forum about Coming Soon using EN tactic?

Does that not leave a bad taste in your mouth? Shame on you, I'd rather get rimmed by Gene Simmons than join EN, you just lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned now. :rolleyes:

As you are just saying, you are passing through, so you dont know the story.

And no, I wasnt crowing, my point was they crow about taking FOUR cities from an inactive player whereas without even looking at stats ive taken five on my own from them in the same period of time. It was merely a comparison, not a "crow"

as for the rest, without knowing the story ez you know nothing. Ive been fighting the Blood MRA since the start of the server. When i came out of vm and the bulk of the players I had been playing with joined the blood group I had three choices, join the blood group (not going to be happen as ive been slating them all server), quit or ghost (was an option), or join the only alliance that is fighting against the blood group.

I was given the opportunity to, and chose to, join the alliance that allowed me to carry on fighting the same alliance ive been fighting since the start. The old saying the enemy of my enemy..

I dont really care if you think ive lost credibility. At least I had some to begin with :p

Oh, and there is a huge difference between leadership here and Erik/Nisa/Ranga/Andrin/etc in Eubea. Not even comparable.
 
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not in bed at all. there are still players attacking each other however it seems a common enemy is more popular :)

I will grant that perhaps not full blown co-operation... maybe not in bed... but definitely hugging and kissing....lol...

Will also acknowledge that as the rot and weak links are peeled off bloods.... what is emerging is certainly much leaner and made of better fibre... so yes they are getting better organised certainly...

For us, when we started this server we wanted a challenge...the endeavor from the beginning was to ensure a challenging server.... yet safeguarding ourselves from grand coalitions (a la sinope) type scenario... Abdera seems to be developing into a nice stimulating challenge... .
 
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I will grant that perhaps not full blown co-operation... maybe not in bed... but definitely hugging and kissing....lol...

Will also acknowledge that as the rot and weak links are peeled off bloods.... what is emerging is certainly much leaner and made of better fibre... so yes they are getting better organised certainly...

For us, when we started this server we wanted a challenge...the endeavor from the beginning was to ensure a challenging server.... yet safeguarding ourselves from grand coalitions (a la sinope) type scenario... Abdera seems to be developing into a nice stimulating challenge... .

Inactive are a plague. If another notices ours as we do an you take that's fair enough. Our problem is nobody monitors yours.

Laxbro's was a victory. Following krons poaching tactic you had plety of time to defend him. His cities fell and the poaching failed unless some stayed to spy. The fact only 1 left indicates that we are prepared to fight.

I gave you credit for active to inactive ratioso not sure why you argued that point?

We are more organised now and losing cities at a lower rate whilst taking cities from you. Slow and steady progress with more wrk in hand. Future looks bright. Certainly not sinking like some suggest

Bloods were nap/pact with you for some time until the dispute which seems to be at our own doing. You had a choice to talk it over or go to war.maybe you did and war was the decision, this Was your decision to go to war with us therefore no motive from the bloods to gang up on en. It just happens you are at war with others too.

Relapse wasn't inactive. He came back and activated militia in some cities.

Bloods are here to stay. out of chaos comes order

Look forward to the next few months:)
 

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Yeah props to bloods for keeping things together so well and looking stronger than ever. Servers are full of peaks and troughs and its just how you react when you feel like your at your lowest point that really matters.

Relapse wasn't inactive. He came back and activated militia in some cities.

Your right Mikey doesn't go inactive, he just gets bored and turns off attack alarm
 

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Top 12

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#1 - Quality Over Quantity
"I have a dream of no MRAs" - Sloth Luther King - MICHAEL PHELPS
Quality over Quantity; Rank #1 on Points, #1 on ABP, #3 on DBP and #1 overall. As they are a tight knit group they have to rely on each other quite heavily and it has done nothing but paid off. They have grown quicker than any other alliance and will continue to do so. However due to the recent ban of Queen Viv for 3 days has made people doubt QoQ, but the legitimacy of the ban and the apparent foul play at hand, this problem should be sorted relatively quickly and abdera will resume respectively. As well as this ban on a 'whim', they have been subject to ridicule on externals but have shown in-game they have the balls and determination to keep up at #1. They are clear potential world winners, have secured their core extensively and do have a shot at taking the win on this one. Depends whether they successfully subdue reigning champions. They have been attacking bloods as well, they seem to attack who they want. They have fought off the smaller alliances from 64 and 76 and are continually growing and an exponential rate which I mentioned earlier.

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#2/3/10 - Eviction Notice
"Winning" - Charlie Sheen / EN - SWIM GOD DAMN IT
Eviction Notice; including all branches, they are collectively the highest point alliance in the world, they are reigning champions of Grepolis and are known by all to be ruthless, incredibly skilled, powerful and have amazing teamwork. There are many names among them that have crowns and have been with EN for a long period of time, there is a reason why they are EN. That's because they win. Without a doubt EN are potential world winners and have the ability to control the world they have done in previous worlds. However it has been argued that they have a senior mod in their ranks which is against game rules and there is no shortage of people slating them for their strategies; but they get the win in the end that's what they aim for. So they are successful in that right. A month ago, EN was slated for having too many allies, pacting with many of the top 12; however because of the recent breaking of the pact with the blood group they now have 5 enemies in the top 12. More enemies, no pacts; that's what everyone wanted them to do right? Their fight against bloods have been very successful; EN has taken 124 cities off bloods in a week period with bloods taking 57, however 35 of these cities are from Laxbro who he virtually let go, meaning 22 cities were actually taken off EN. No matter how you put it, EN are winning against bloods. QoQ has hit them lately and have taken cities off them, however they have taken cities from QoQ, with about 18 of them being in Oc45, far away from QoQ's core and looks like they almost let them go. Can EN continue to put the pressure on the rest of the world and establish their dominance once again and claim another victory under their belts? I know these guy's are powerhouses, so does everyone; when WW comes it will become apparent of their well laid plans and strategies.

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#4/7/8/11 - Written in BLOOOOOOOOOD
"I don't know what i want! I don't know who i am or who i will be!" - Caitlyn Jenner / Bruce Jenner / Bruce Wayne / I'm the BATMAN - Rubber Dingy
Blood Group - Collectively the 2nd biggest alliance in the world with all their branches included, they are in the core, squished and squashed between every other alliance, they have done very well to last this long, they have the ability to fight and bounce back from a loss, many argue they are here to stay; e.g. Martinus V saying how bloods are becoming better as the 'inactives' are coming lose and the fighters and those that are willing to fight are showing through the huge MRA. Could this mean that bloods will eventually slim down to 2 maybe 3 alliances in a month or two? It would mean they are more elitist and would be filled with their best and skilled players which everyone knows they have. They have done really well to not roll over and collapse and to fight back against EN. However this is where the positives stop, they are rife with inactives that drag the alliance down and these would need to be addressed. They took 35 of laxbro's cities as i previously mentioned out of a total 57 cities taken from EN&Co in a week period. This isn't great as no doubt they were let go as i was in EN at that time and i didn't see any defence posts from him, or that could of just been my young, fully able eyes. They have lost 124 cities to EN, mostly from players who have been good players and ACTIVE for the entirety of the world, this doesn't seem to be slowing down but time will tell. Just can't see them either taking down EN or being taken down completely, this is why i have gave them the rubber dingy sticker as they seem to be happily floating around in 4th, surviving.

Caitlyn Jenner because they switched sides and i think they'd prefer to switch back!

On another note, Rubber Bullets have taken 115 bloody nun cities in Oc56 and bloods have took no cities from them. HMM.. that backfired. Bloody Nuns no longer exists, drained the life out of them while they still could..
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#5 - Rubber Bullets (At the time of writing)
"Bob Marley isnt my name. I don't know my name yet." - Bob Marley - Dory from Nemo, always swimming but is very forgetful, especially of her own name
Rubber Bullets/Whoever they are now; Herefordgrl is dory. These guys are here from sinope, not looking to build WW, here for fun and to ruin some people's days and i can see them doing just that. These guys are great friends, great players and great fighters. They are here to attack people and break some WW. Great leadership too, they have obliterated nuns in Oc56 and i can see them doing a fair bit of damage to bloods, where will bloods go? They are surrounded by QoQ, EN and now Rubber Bullets and i don't think there is a weak front. They don't get along with a lot of the world, and seems to stay to themselves, thats probably the only negative thing i can say about them. With them not aiming for any WW, i can't say that they are potential world winners, but i can say they are potential world winner preventers.
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#6 - The Hammer
"My, my, my, my music hits me so hard
Makes me say, "Oh my Lord,
Thank you for blessing me
With a mind to rhyme and two hype feet."
It feels good, when you know you're down
A super dope homeboy from the Oaktown
And I'm known as such
And this is a beat, uh, you can't touch" -

RimJob Dolphin

Hammertime; King of the Rim, these guys are north, friendly with EN, not many enemies, seem to be hitting TUATHA, don't know much but they havent taken many cities from them the past week but are however growing rather well. I can see them being a real pain in the bum for someone, they fought off dragon hunters and have earned the title of rimjob kings haha. They have been steadily growing and have earned a rank 6 spot. Not much cohesion with EN contrary to everyone's opinion of them being pacted. Although some affiliation, nothing is cemented.
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#9 - Independent
"I'm an independent black woman who don't need no man" - Shaniqua - Float like a butterfly
Independent; These guys are in EN's backyard, they aren't scared of EN and they are only here to have some fun with EN. They aren't here for WW, they are here to have fun like the rest of us should be. They fluctuate in and out of the top 12, however they now seem to have got a comfortable spot now and are continuing to grow despite EN. However i don't think that they have the ability to grow exponentially and become a much bigger alliance without EN's target focusing on them, thats why they are a float.
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#12 - TUATHA
"What is this? I can't even" - Drum and Baes - Bathroom Sink
TUATHA; somehow described as a huge MRA, don't see it but may be from a previous world, i know not much of them. Apart from they aren't conquering anything from anyone and can just see them sinking quite heavily when someone focuses on them. Apologies for this brief info of them but if anyone wants me to update it i will by all means!
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