No I think it means we didn't coddle him like Mal did.....Those 2 are great friends and he left right when she came back....I suspect his return had more to do with her than anything else....
I prefer to call it having age appropriate expectations
As far as I know, my being back was a surprise to Lep when he came back to TNE
Actually everything that happened after my return was just coincidental timing....
I am rather disappointed to read that NR members 'always knew' the pact would be broken and entered into it expecting such- it's rather disheartening.
Many of you know we did not resurrect TNE because we wanted to leave NR- but rather because it was the only option available that didn't involve imploding NR from the inside after Muwa woke up one morning and decided he hated me for some mysterious reason he never cared to share. While I know what precipitated that, and the conversations we had prior to it and can easily draw a logical conclusion (which I did and shared with about 5 people) the full reasons behind it are known only to Muwa. And I think everyone that felt the climate between us can agree it was the best thing for all involved at the time.
When TNE was resurrected, I expected that at some point in the future we would all be under the same roof again, after Muwa got over whatever he was mad about, or decided to say what it was and clear the air. I assumed Hyper/ISIS/VV/MCo, et el would all continue to merge into one alliance and we (TNE and NR) would continue to fight them into the WW's. And at some point, TNE and NR would once again be one alliance. Obviously that is not what happened- but that NR entered into the pact, expecting and hoping for a different outcome than that is a real eye opener. I'd always assumed that at some point, the air between Muwa and I would be cleared and we'd be one alliance again. Since my return, he's made it clear he's no intention of clearing the air, the pact was broken, and at this point it is what it is....
Everything Babs said about NR being a refuge for people who just want to play, I believe to be true. I'm glad Lep had a place to go when he needed it and wasn't left with his only option to be quitting. I hope that is something about NR that will never change. NR was a refuge for those of us who eventually formed TNE, when NR had only 15 members, when we needed to leave IWW. Muwa took a chance on me and my little group when he gave us a home the first time and he did it no questions asked. I knew him, Sable, and a few others from the IWW pact with their old alliance and have been friends with them since the first weeks of the game. There are many people in NR I considered and still consider friends. Coming back to a world where we are now on opposite sides has been a rather big adjustment for me to wrap my head around.
I will say that for me, the true testament to NR's character is how they handled my return. I was discovered, hiding out in a little rim alliance, with an itty bitty 3k city. They could have quickly and easily squashed me, but instead, decided to leave me alone so I'd have a chance to build up enough to really play again. Muwa was in VM, I don't know if that decision would have happened had he been around, or if he'd have honored it if I hadn't taken over OBC's account prior to his return from VM. Yes, there are sometimes with somethings, I've questioned what NR was doing, but over-all, they tend to do the 'right' thing.
Admittedly, I don't like that TNE and NR are fighting. I wasn't here for everything that led up to it, and it doesn't sit well with me. Given that ISIS ghosted and MCo disbanded, there really is no option for TNE and NR to fight anyone else but each other, but hopefully it can be done in fun, on friendly terms, and not devolve into something less....I was friends with several people in MCo and VV while we were fighting them, I hope this war with NR will be no different.
And Sable- for the record those attacks from the North from OBC were from me
Not that you had much to worry about with a 29 hour CS trip- was nothing more than a love tap
