It's funny how you ignore any points that don't suit you. It looked like most were winding down the overall mudslinging, then you kicked it off again. Yes, Horsevong was acting dodgily. But again, I see no proof that OSG was plotting with him to do stuff. Surely if someone was convincing Horsevong to screw Quad, it would have been done before Quad got Masters of the World? Also, that CS was sent as soon as we could get enough people together for an attempt. I don't actually remember much discussion about horsevong's online times: we pretty much assumed that he would be online because of all the attack alarms he would have got as we started the ball rolling. Well, he could have left just ghosted or left Quad. Either way, I still haven't seen proof of either of your big accusations towards us. Just stuff that points out that Horsevong was acting dodgily. We may not 100% have needed to fill right away (although some of Quad have been rather hot on our heels in racing certain Wonders, so who knows?), but there would be no reason not to start straight away, if we knew in advance - we have seen how quickly a team the size of Quad can build WWs - for all we knew, Quad could be reformed within hours and start throwing tonnes of resources and favour at whatever wonders we were weakest on.