Wars

[DeletedUser]

LordFussy had to run into VM to save himself and not paly like a true fighter but go VM pure effort to exploit game mechanics to escape rimming now he is avoiding this by ON PURPSOE letting all or most of his cities below 6k range.

Let's make a list of all the noobs that had to run off to VM to save their own skin:
LordFussy - The Unknowns/The Union/KD/The Black Seal
Paul Andrew Brown - The Unknowns
Aronzinex - The Unknowns
killer659 - The Unknowns
redtop92 - The Unknowns
Stradavarious - KD
flyer69 - KD



Those that have been rimmed (or close to it):
Transient - Founder of The Unknowns
Bilgerat - The Unknowns
Santi77- The Unknowns
Threnody Mournsong- The Unknowns
Milvago - The Union
redtop92 - KD
Flyer69- KD

 

[DeletedUser]

redtop is not in KD.

Your account of how many people have been attacking your alliance is extremely exaggerated... 100+? If you want to count how many people were actually sending real attacks against you... not tiny little waves of nothing.... The number is closer to 50 in all honesty. Your kill/death ratio of 3:1 as stated is way over the top as well. If it were 3:1, that's still pretty pathetic because during your joint op on KD, our kill/death ratio was closer to 5:1. Even more exaggerations & manipulation of the truth by Paragon. Our attacks on Paragon haven't gone on for a week yet either. & I'm not convinced you even took 100+ cities from us since LordFussy left your alliance. LordFussy left because of a disagreement between him & your leadership. He didn't go "Rogue" he didn't like what you guys decided to do, so you attacked him for it. Going "Rogue" would imply he left your alliance & began attacking you for no apparent reason... which is definitely not the case, he left, you attacked him, he sought assistance.... Then returned the favor.

I'm not on here to brag, I'm on here giving the other side of the story. Never once have I gotten on here talking about how awesome I am, or that everyone else is noobs... or all the other boasts & belittling comments that Paragon members continue to post regularly.

 

[DeletedUser]

redtop is not in KD.

If you want to count how many people were actually sending real attacks against you... not tiny little waves of nothing.... The number is closer to 50 in all honesty.

Apologies, you are correct. I've amended my post. I get the noobs mixed up sometimes. redtop92 is in The Unknowns.



I'm not exaggerating, I'm presenting the numbers. I'd say about 75 members sent real attacks, but I'm not going to dig through hundreds of battle reports to give you an exact number. The rest were fluff and poor attempts at diversionary tactics. The fact is, Paragon is an offensive alliance and we swatted you away like mosquitoes. Fewer than 25% of our cities are dedicated to defense and only about half or our members had to respond with any significant support.

LordFussy left because of a disagreement between him & your leadership. He didn't go "Rogue" he didn't like what you guys decided to do, so you attacked him for it. Going "Rogue" would imply he left your alliance & began attacking you for no apparent reason... which is definitely not the case, he left, you attacked him, he sought assistance.... Then returned the favor

LordFussy was my most trusted and most heavily supported member during his conquest attempts. I helped him take down Milvago and broke The Union's back in one fell swoop. He succeeded at conquest despite his incompetence, because I did all the work. He escorted his CS with biremes for heaven's sake.

A few days later I ordered him to postpone a claim for one day because we had planned an alliance operation. Alliance actions always take precedence over personal conquests. He flipped out and joined the enemy, then immediately began feeding them information, so we retaliated to his defection with armies. When he couldn't hold us off any longer he went into VM and began spraying slanderous comments about me all over the external forums, as well as in Olympia.

All of this began because he spent $20 on gold to rush production for his conquest and he felt sleighted. My trust and support is worth more than $20 measly bucks. He made his petty choice and now he's paying for it.

I'm not on here to brag, I'm on here giving the other side of the story.

You're not nearly as "journalistic" as you're making yourself out to be. You're biased and motivated by your disgust of me. I remain empirical.

Since you want both sides of the coin presented, there are three players of note. Ones that sent armies to indicate a bit of competence:

pfa74
miltiades84
shado99

Most of the other attacks have been LOL and the players I've just listed have not taken any city. They merely wasted their nukes.

 

[DeletedUser29371]

Your account of how many people have been attacking your alliance is extremely exaggerated... 100+? If you want to count how many people were actually sending real attacks against you... not tiny little waves of nothing.... The number is closer to 50 in all honesty.

Ok Ballzach... so by this statement you are telling us much more than you actually want because either this is incorrect and you are full of BS or this is true and it proves that your alliance is working with whole coalition.

Its either 1 and 2 and i thank you for the info.

And its not close to 50 because every attack counts.... if you send 2 LS i dont care its an attack... so now you have standards what counts as an attack? an attack is an assault from player A on player B end of story.

Your kill/death ratio of 3:1 as stated is way over the top as well. If it were 3:1, that's still pretty pathetic because during your joint op on KD, our kill/death ratio was closer to 5:1.

Yes yours might have been however you fail to realise that average paragon member replenishes troops on double if not triple speed of average unknowns/KD/ etc member. Orestes can affords spanking you on K/D ratio of 1:15 in <your favor and i bet he wins you 1 on 1 cos of his activity and gold.

Whats your kill/death ratio?

Our attacks on Paragon haven't gone on for a week yet either.

Who said for a week? its 5 days.... FOTNS said 1 week but he was talking other perspective

I'm not convinced you even took 100+ cities from us since LordFussy left your alliance.

I said DOUBLE DIGITS.... XX YY 15 25.... REREAD....

LordFussy left because of a disagreement between him & your leadership. He didn't go "Rogue" he didn't like what you guys decided to do, so you attacked him for it. Going "Rogue" would imply he left your alliance & began attacking you for no apparent reason... which is definitely not the case, he left, you attacked him, he sought assistance.... Then returned the favor.

LordFussy was ORDERED to stop his claim and he was all hurt inside for spending his 5 bucks rushing troops for claim and cried for whole day and left. And that was only after i sent MM, he did not even contact me to discuss it he simpyl quitted... THEN he FED information about joint ops to The Unknowns and The Union so that is WHY we attacked him you see?

Guess you are a bad ''journalist'' I got info of tipped Joint ops happening something which only top 7 people and LordFussy (who left) knew... so who it was... i WONDER!

Then he ran to VM as soon as big guns fired at him....

See Ballzach either you talk right and read right or dont deceive and take words we write and wrote it differently.

I see 1 crybaby running around forums claiming 2:0 for coalition vs Paragon (soon 3) and then another guy screaming something else. Funny thing is if we had 5 more OrestesOfArgos or J Marcus players you would not be here neither would be LordPussssy Only our CP problems and lack of players goes the thanks of this server still having any action else we could close it down.

And that is after SM slacked off alot for my point of view.

But first i need to conquer 2 cities tommorow so i can laugh on gammer with 2:2 lol

cos apperently thats all that matters to his thick skull he forgets 50 : 2 for paragon overall though LMAO that does not matter anymore OFCOURSE

 

[DeletedUser]

Grepointel Colonizations: Paragon

http://www.grepostats.com/world/en39/colonizations?enemy_alliance=24&min_points=&max_points=

In the interest of preempting the next gloat session, I'd like to point out the circumstances of each city that Paragon has lost.

Olympia Alliance 101 Acquisitions:

Dragon Jumoon has been inactive for three days. Here's his Athena profile:

http://www.athenasrecords.net/data/#/en/39/player/profile/3282932

Four of his cities have been conquered by OA101. He quit without a reason and without warning. Enjoy your "victory". Most of those cities were in O43, which Paragon has never sought to control. Two of the cities were below 5,000 points...not exactly a trophy to mount on your wall.

Leonel0123 has been inactive for nearly a month. Here's his Athena profile:

http://www.athenasrecords.net/data/#/en/39/player/profile/401431

Randy1285 took one of leonel's cities internally a few hours ago, but the city was taken by OA101 a few hours later. I was not notified until the CS had landed.

Before Olympia Alliance 101 or United Noobs start shouting about 5:0 victory, look at the reality of the situation. You'll never take down an active Paragon member. We've never lost a city that was actively defended. NEVER.

And we never will!

ro:

 

[DeletedUser17088]

the content is about the war, i can't fault you all for that at all.

I just want you all to chill it a little, return it to banter please rather than the rising temper thats becoming clear

 

[DeletedUser]

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rage at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

-Dylan Thomas

 

[DeletedUser29371]

5:0 , More excuses plz Paragon

Why dont you make summa of ALL cities every conquered by paragon on those alliances and the coalition... see who has the edge

 

[DeletedUser31518]

"Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings "

-Black Sabbath

I was told recently in a very sophisticated and eloquent manner how I do not understand psycology yet I see how some fail to understand the psycology of the MRAs for what they have "achieved" against paragon, why the long arguements if that's not the case . Double standards maybe? I 've quoted black sabbath to give you an idea of how they feel and all the arguements in the world wont change their mind.

 

[DeletedUser29371]

1 for Paragon.... hope Roughnecks check the Conquests and tell gammarsnarf about the coalition fail to protect uber city!

 

[DeletedUser]

You're saying the MRAs have achieved a psychological victory over me because I present solid facts in retort to their baseless claims and inflammatory comments? Interesting logic.

 

[DeletedUser29371]

"Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings "

-Black Sabbath

I was told recently in a very sophisticated and eloquent manner how I do not understand psycology yet I see how some fail to understand the psycology of the MRAs for what they have "achieved" against paragon, why the long arguements if that's not the case . Double standards maybe? I 've quoted black sabbath to give you an idea of how they feel and all the arguements in the world wont change their mind.

The thing is MRAs have no TEAM.... they have hundred of players playing for the sake of playing not FOR THE WIN! The MRA that boasts about 5:0 and its coward member Gammar has maybe 6-8 good players.

If Paragon would have the same resource income in TOTAL as Olympia alliance 101 and Olympian roughnecks and unknowns and KHAL DROGO and LOS COMBINED and then divided by 20 members they would all be terrified in their holes called BUNKERS. Its the hard cap thats hitting us, sheer number of players who can send 10 biremes or 10 LS and it adds up to 400+

And even then there is no sense of Coordination amongst them... there was 1 good thing they did.... They chose the weaker and inactive members. Attacking stoned randy and inactive crybaby Dragon Jumoon was the only genius move... (well and the fact Dragon Jumoon did NOT listen to my DIRECT order)

The only attempt the coalition did on Paragons FINEST member resulted in LOST CS. I understand psychology full well and told them its a nice boasting trophy, but its hardly some warlord or operation success or achievement.

The beauty part is you're right and even when i will make it 5:5 or 6:6 or 6:12 in our favor it will hurt Paragons pride way more than olympia alliance 101 pride.... but their trophy is not the city but the Banner under which it was conquered from and that in my eyes diminishes the victory overall. See i can pride myself practically rimming Transient with Snitch and Chromedomex, and Orestes can pride in rimming or conquering cities against all odds player wise, and on making multiple palyers RUN in VM cos of his attacks... Its 2 different boasting parts, result is morale boost for its members which is fine... The third is being objective.

Now i want you to be honest and tell me do you call taking those cities in ocean 43 around 16+h from the nearest Paragon member a SOUND victory or inevitable loss as predicted by myself to Dragon Jumoon the day he joined? Thing is Dragon Jumoon would lost these 3 cities up in ocean 43 that day REGARDLESS if WHOLE olympia 101 would attack or if only 2 players with 2 full armies each would attack. Thats why from neutral point such success is laughable at best. Noone denies its morale boost.

For example what will you say now... a couple of minutes ago i conquered a 2.2k city from PLASKOTA a member of Olympia Roughnecks an obvious spin off from Olympia alliance 101 ... go check me in game and go on my city 1 for Paragon check its location and who is surrounding the city. Do you call such thing a sound victory of Paragon or inevitable loss of Plaskotas city? I call it inevitable loss.

Noone is denying Olympia 101 its morale success, only its how should i write it so i wont make it sound weird hmmmm only its war success....

 

[DeletedUser25074]

End of the day it makes no diff what banner the City falls under if u take a city from an enemy weather it be inactive or not its a victory and a moral booster non the less. Bragging rights all the same just the level of player u took the city from determines the level of bragging rights you get

For example - current situation MRA coalition managed a victory on the op they took a few of the cities they were gunning for easy targets yes but still it was there goal and they achieved it. This will be forgotten in a few weeks.

If they ever (not very likely) managed to take a city from Orest or Alcar on a day that didnt involve them lay up in a hospital bed unable to use there hands then Para would never live it down and no one would ever let them forget it.

See 2 victories but 2 very different levels of a victory right there.

 

[DeletedUser31518]

I think what I said was straight forward...no matter how many facts you present, the MRA's in their eyes think that they have achieved something, experienced players know other wise. However , I am sure they felt satisfaction taking some cities from paragon no matter how active were the players involved or the location of their cities. I was told by alcarin that I dont understand psycological satisfaction from ingame achivements (more or less). So how come and it is so hard to understand how the MRA's feel in this matter. Hence the double stabdards comment. The actual achievemnet is irrelevant in this context , after all I was talking about psycology.


Come on guys I havent got the time to explain word by word everything I say, maybe I ll stay out of the forums and get back to my paper. Also I am not impressed on how heavily I got cunsored for having a go at the puppeteers (rather than the puppets) last time....but I wasnt expecting anything less.

 

[DeletedUser]

End of the day it makes no diff what banner the City falls under if u take a city from an enemy weather it be inactive or not its a victory and a moral booster non the less. Bragging rights all the same just the level of player u took the city from determines the level of bragging rights you get

For example - current situation MRA coalition managed a victory on the op they took a few of the cities they were gunning for easy targets yes but still it was there goal and they achieved it. This will be forgotten in a few weeks.

If they ever (not very likely) managed to take a city from Orest or Alcar on a day that didnt involve them lay up in a hospital bed unable to use there hands then Para would never live it down and no one would ever let them forget it.

See 2 victories but 2 very different levels of a victory right there.

Believe it or not, I agree 100% with you

 

[DeletedUser30767]

I think what I said was straight forward...no matter how many facts you present, the MRA's in their eyes think that they have achieved something, experienced players know other wise. However , I am sure they felt satisfaction taking some cities from paragon no matter how active were the players involved or the location of their cities. I was told by alcarin that I dont understand psycological satisfaction from ingame achivements (more or less). So how come and it is so hard to understand how the MRA's feel in this matter. Hence the double stabdards comment. The actual achievemnet is irrelevant in this context , after all I was talking about psycology.


Come on guys I havent got the time to explain word by word everything I say, maybe I ll stay out of the forums and get back to my paper. Also I am not impressed on how heavily I got cunsored for having a go at the puppeteers (rather than the puppets) last time....but I wasnt expecting anything less.

Come on .... You should stay ... thats the whole point of "friendly discussion on forums" ...

As for the war ... i just saw a city lost by Paragon yesterday in O44, which i suppose is the main house of Paragon .... Please correct me if i am wrong ...

 

[DeletedUser]

helliswell, I explained that city loss already. See prior post. Go back a page.

Refer to 2:17am entry
http://forum.en.grepolis.com/showthread.php?39051-Wars/page11

 

[DeletedUser30767]

Sorry.. my mistake ...

 

[DeletedUser29371]

I think what I said was straight forward...no matter how many facts you present, the MRA's in their eyes think that they have achieved something, experienced players know other wise. However , I am sure they felt satisfaction taking some cities from paragon no matter how active were the players involved or the location of their cities. I was told by alcarin that I dont understand psycological satisfaction from ingame achivements (more or less). So how come and it is so hard to understand how the MRA's feel in this matter. Hence the double stabdards comment. The actual achievemnet is irrelevant in this context , after all I was talking about psycology.


Come on guys I havent got the time to explain word by word everything I say, maybe I ll stay out of the forums and get back to my paper. Also I am not impressed on how heavily I got cunsored for having a go at the puppeteers (rather than the puppets) last time....but I wasnt expecting anything less.

You still ignored my question to check city ''1 for Paragon'' and its location took yesterday from Olympian Roughnecks and tell me do you consider it a sound victory or inevitable loss

and ofc you do not understand it.... i never denied psychological satisfaction of Olympia alliance 101 just the war part it means as much as 0 thats why it was not a sound victory just inevitable loss but i bet it put nice morale boost in psychology terms

 

[DeletedUser31518]

You still ignored my question to check city ''1 for Paragon'' and its location took yesterday from Olympian Roughnecks and tell me do you consider it a sound victory or inevitable loss

and ofc you do not understand it.... i never denied psychological satisfaction of Olympia alliance 101 just the war part it means as much as 0 thats why it was not a sound victory just inevitable loss but i bet it put nice morale boost in psychology terms

I 've played browser games long enough to understand them just fine, every aspect of them.

This is like talking to a brick wall and let's say I 've lost the arguement and I am gonna shut up now ( no problem giving you satisfaction at all.lol). I am so intellectually challenged in this forum that my brain really hurts ( off to take some headache tablets now) .