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If war happens it would be a good one to see.
you also forget to mention the terms you tried to make for the nap. we loss 250 cities and gain less than 80. yes cause that is a mutual benefit to both people. we did make counter offers to it you refused them. BOM kept waring with WE because it was our ocean to move into. Now that we break WE and are moving into that ocean all of a sudden WE are flying MOS flags and our NAP is obsolete. I don't know about anyone else but that seems shady to me. And after all the time saying you want us on your side you turn and take everything BOM worked for.
I can see your point. You counted cities, where I counted areas. One entire ocean that would be closer to your other areas, or 2/5 of O55 which you knew we'd be going for sooner or later. The only counter offer I remember is to attack WE without a cause in a dishonorable way (that is for those that speak about being on an honorable side, lol), correct me if I'm wrong.
Don't tell me it was all sudden. You had no cities in that ocean when I approached you guys with that offer asking you to proclaim the border between O45-46, O55-56, O65-66. That way you knew we had our views on O65. I thought I'd still have some other offers from you, but I didn't, instead I got you guys taking former O65 WE members in.
You guys still sound as if we declared a war or something. If diplomacy fails, cannons start speaking. Looks like diplomacy failed here, but cannons haven't spoken yet - we didn't agree on your terms, you didn't agree on ours. Seriously though, if you guys knew anything about diplomacy you wouldn't have been whining this much. Check for example "ABM Treaty" in history - it is very much the same. One part no longer benefits from the treaty and quits it. We were not buddies after all, the treaties were signed just so we might safely expand in other directions. Looks like you worked less and worse than MOS as we managed to complete our job much faster than you did.
You, on the other hand, also had your benefits as you managed to survive for this long, becoming a rank#2 alliance being somewhere below rank#5. The only core alliance you fought was WE, we kept everyone else away from you while you were fighting your way through the rim. I know you'd still want it this way and this is why you're so p*ssed.
As for taking what you worked for - we did need more members and those we picked were good enough to join us. You wanted to rim them anyway and I knew you'd get p*ssed with that move. When Lowkey took empowered members in - he broke the NAP. He did a dishonorable thing, doing something that was restricted by the NAP without letting us know, still with it being active, and for that we went for a personal war against him and his alliance - you won't see any former HaVoC leaders in MOS. It would've been different if they quit the NAP first (explaining why), giving us some time to prepare. We still would've started the war but in that case we would've had some time to revert it or maybe work it out somehow. And you guys had weeks to offer us another deal or get prepared - anything.
Ella took 303 members in, which I didn't take for a dishonorable thing. She didn't break any treaties and she knew the risk but took it up. MOS didn't break any treaties yet too and we also knew the risk, so as I said, if you think you might pull it and take what you think is yours - come and take.
Hey Volsung, Theseus... here (no duh right? haha) . Well, one thing I do have to say MOS is very impressive in skill, size, and power and you are very diplomatic much to what many say otherwise. I would not consider you dishonorable like some have said only for the fact that by the code of war, you did everything correct. Down to the letter, you did EVERYTHING right. I have been a diplomat in 2 other servers where my leaders made the final decision and they were wrong, and I've had enemy leaders say if my leaders listened to me, we would have survived in the last few servers. The thing is, is you did nothing wrong, but you did something VERY annoying. haha I do have to give Chris props for being the most annoying however. Good job chris. I think the problem people have is like Silent said, you took something away that we worked very hard for that we would have had after a certain amount of time. Now remember, I don't know all of the exact workings of the NAP so don't quote me on a lot of this but I wish different things had been figured out to tell you the truth. And trust me, we don't wanna take it at you. We're still busy. Trust me.
.I hope none of you are my countryman in real life. I would be very disappointed if it were so.
oh snap Dazzly got told and now trying to back-pedal his way out of this thread. Not so fast sweetheart, Chris is very polite to you and there are no signs of flame war. If you got nothing to say, just admit your defeat and apologise.
Funnily enough Tyrone its you I can't be bothered to argue with anymore I have told you where to find me ingame and apparently I have some guy who is "going to tear me a new one" there as well.
So man up and come see me on an even playing field, as for this tread and mos its best if I stop spoon feeding you reasons to keep dribbling all over the forums see you All in caly if you can ever drag yourselfs away from this utopian sim city world you have created here
The only cities taken were white eagles and vul said he didn't care. The part you broke was you would stay out of bom wars. Clear refugee situation here where you are sheltering the enemy.Someone is only done with an argument if they have lost it right.. So that's you and dazzy-baby. Anyone else?
In the end it comes down to this. MOS has less players than BOM, even after this merge. MOS are in need of active players all the time, we have lost a couple of our most active. Myn2011 being one of those with over 40cities. (As no you doubt should have realised). Not counting the top members we have in VM mode, it's nice to have a few more active players of a certain caliber. Animyus wouldn't make the grade, Jeese.. I hope he's not one of my fellow countryman.
@mosert - This is probably true. Although I'm too lazy at this time in the morning to check. There are certain BOM cities that could be considered breaking the pact as well, but there was a general rule and you have to make allowances. Cities were swapped between our alliances to facilitate the NAP in the first place. The odd city here and there is awkward to watch out for on either side.
Not counting the top members we have in VM mode, it's nice to have a few more active players of a certain caliber. Animyus wouldn't make the grade, Jeese.. I hope he's not one of my fellow countryman.
The only cities taken were white eagles and vul said he didn't care. The part you broke was you would stay out of bom wars. Clear refugee situation here where you are sheltering the enemy.
you gonna get pwned in the new world as well. Our assassin is very close to you
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And you, well lets just say i won't be losing any sleep mate
Lol, I don't pretend a big man in real life so I'm fine sat behind my safe computer screen cowering away from you're undoubtedly weedy arms.
You wouldn't make the cut because you're a guy with no sense of humour. Gotta take a certain amount of stick and BS when you're a member in MOS. I generally make a habit of being annoying to everyone in MOS more than other people. I think sunny from TSL put it best.
"There is this nice funny gentleman Chris to friends, Then an evil Chris to everyone else, just ribbing in, lol"
You can't take any banter, so you wouldn't make the cut. Hell, I'm a massive n00b and don't know how to play.. But I got in cos I bring banter in extreme levels.