I mentioned the spy ring to Exo to wind him, You know the guy who accused us of everything under the sun..
Spy ring, spies, whatever you want to call it. The fact of the matter is you continually boasted about your spy within ZT's council. The proof is all over the external forums for anyone who doesn't believe me. So it stands to reason that you would attempt to do the same with the other alliances. I'm sure your taking in of the traitorous 2dukesy2 is an attempt to get you closer to some of the ex-NG people in Pan. (I guess your dislike of Madamesi91 isn't as great as you have led us to believe after all.)
Our methods are our own, ultimately which ever wins is what matters.
I know, why take anything into account like honorable conduct and fair play when the most important thing is who wins at the end? What could be more important than winning?
Yes I did send an MM to a number of ZTs and that I dont deny but nowhere in that message did I directly threaten any member of ZT who didnt join us
The quotes I provided were not from a lay member of ZT, they were from someone in council. Whether he/she chooses to identify themselves at some point is up to them, but perhaps more was said to them than the rest of the people who got your mass message. That part I don't know, but what I know is what I got.
Also Archi your source has sadly missed the context of my message, Since you have a copy of it you will notice a number of names are ommitted from it and it was not sent to every member of ZT secondly you will understand the context in which the message is written and therefore I find these accustations from yourself and Sir Cod rather hypocritical since you are now in the liars seats since you are manipulating my words in order to discredit me.
First of all, I never actually pointed a finger at you; my accusation was at TD in a broad sense. Your mass mail may be one thing but what you told ZT leaders may have been another. I don't know. But if your mass mail and your private messages were so similar, then why did my source say what he/she said?
Also where did I lie about Pans intentions?, In fact what have I said thats a lie?
If what my source says is true, then you lied. You are saying you didn't say it. My source says you did.
Looks like we are at an impasse on that point.
Surely you can't expect us to believe that you only sent a mass mail to TD members without speaking to their leaders.
Say what you want about me..
Not saying anything about you, people can make up their own minds. My only direct quote relating to you was, "GGN, I have spoken to you privately and have felt that our conversations were always straightforward, though necessarily guarded as people in separate alliances will [be]."
frogstamp25 said:
Certainly talking to the new TD members from ZT they are all really fitting in well and united in what appears to be a mutual hatred for the new Pan and some of it's members...as for the city tally so far , congratulations PAN . However boasting about taking in actives and simmers is strange to say the least.. perhaps you will have the courage to attack real targets and if you get success that way then I will take my hat off to you -we can all go into grepo intel and pick of the weakest of the herd, we can all try to manipulate figures as 'real' conquests but you appear to be hitting a brick wall with your attempts at active members so far.
The reason you don't take in hoards of weak players is exactly what you are saying: they are easy targets and them filling up your forums with defense requests and seeing them lose their cities and quit eventually takes a hit on morale.
With that said, I'm not sure if you are just going by what TD is telling you or actually looking things up on grepointel because at a glance, a number of the people who have lost cities are active.
Your post did come across as partisan. Not saying it was or that you are, but I had also made the initial assumption you were in TD.
