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DeletedUser48096

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Jonny the B said:
Why do you think the Original Mates Of Gaul want nothing to do with you anymore.
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I could give you my true thoughts on OMOG. But I would likely be banned from commenting here again if I was to do that....

We assisted OMOG from day one and then without a shred of gratitude they behave like a bunch of disloyal kids. Anyway needless to say, OMOG ended their pact with us without notification and completely without unannounced. We enquired as to the reason, and their reason was that they wanted to progress without on with WW's... Fair enough... I reciceved word from OMOG that some of our members were attacking OMOG, I sent out a mass Mail asking them to stop. Following that I was informed of three other players, Two were attacking and one was draining OMOG caves. I messaged them and two of them stopped their actions. The third didnt and was kicked from TD as a result (B1Gwood).

Following this I recieved word from a member of OMOG looking to join TD, They were worried about OMOG and their leaders, They believed OMOG were going to war with TD and they wanted to continue playing the game. During our coms they informed me that OMOG's internal announcement read as follows.

"Ready your fleets! for the start of the WW!!!!
And prepare for the greatest battle with Transient Drifters
Do Not Attack now wait for the council to declare open war"

Clearly this was an alliance that was looking to start a fight with us. But lets be honest for a few moments TD vs OMOG at this stage in the game isnt really in our best interests. At this point I was not informed by Tsun that any of those I messaged had committed any repeat attacks (Apart from B1Gwood who was kicked) So I assumed all was good. These were members acting outside the will of the council and they were told to stop and they did.

Then we got reports of OMOG Leader Radilus attacking one of our wonder islands.. This was completely unprovoked and we therefore considered this an act of war. Radilus is a member of the OMOG council and therefore should know better, Due to his position in OMOG and timing and location of this attack we considered this a calculated and planned attack with ApocZT.

We therefore declared war and notified OMOG of our intention.

Personally I consider the OMOG leadership a bunch of disloyal ****s and would have little issue in comparing them to the levels of loyalty and trust shown by both Apoc and ZT. So you are perhaps in good company there Jonny.

TD have about as much reputation as a trodden on dog turd
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I find this claim curious, Mainly because its a meaningless claim to all who dont actually care what others think, but also because I find it extremely hypocritical, Are you seriously going to claim that ZT hasnt done anything that would sour its reputation also?......... Because as we both know that would be a major lie on your part.......

This suggestion that TD has soured its reputation seems to be a consistant theme here from both Apoc and ZT but as of yet we have yet to see anything definitive other than repeated assertions followed by empty suggestions and hollow claims. Sorry if it messes with your story Jonny but facts really are a pain in the bum aren't they? So I do have to wonder what story about either me or Nate are you going to bring up this time to support this conclusion?
 
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DeletedUser

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As a member of the finest alliance in Herm i have to disagree wholeheartedly with what anyone in Z..i mean TD now says ;)

I have to take issue with all attempts to sour the name of our illustrious alliance and inform TD that i will be using the full force of my 2k juggernaut to reign down hellfire on all your WW sites,, be very afraid :p
 

DeletedUser48096

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Just saying Jamo, If somebody makes a claim then it shouldnt come as a suprise if we ask for evidence for said claim because we dont believe it. Its actually an extremely logical position to hold on all extraordinary and unbelievable claims. As Christopher Hitchens once said,

"That which can be asserted without evidence, Can be dismissed without evidence"

So unless Jonny wants to support his claim and provide justification and evidence that TD has "as much reputation as a trodden on dog turd", I see no reason to accept it as anything other than a figment of Apocs laughable propaganda and Jonny's own delusions.
 

DeletedUser

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I would have been happy to show the proof i had if someone hadn't deleted it all when they disbanded the alliance. I even know why your alliance started in the first place. Anyone else remember back that far. When you were in Wreckless. Remember how you took one of our members reservations after being told you couldn't have it. But then said you would hand it over to the person who had the reservation on it. Then when it came down to handing the city over you said no and left and formed TD. Why do you think we never had a pact with you ever.


As for turning on you. Lets get some facts out on that one. When you left Wreckless and formed TD we ended our pact with Wreckless. Some of them joined us some joined you and the others stayed as wreckless. Then when we attacked what was left of Wreckless some of them joined you. This was after we already had cities in revolt. You agreed that we had 48 hours to take any cities and that you wouldn't be supporting them till after the 48 hours were up. Strange then when we took a city to find support coming in from so many in TD. This happened with nearly every city we took. This was when we decided that any Nap with you was over and that you couldn't be trusted. I don't know who was in TD at this time but it seems strange that no one remembers any of this.
 

DeletedUser48096

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I would have been happy to show the proof i had if someone hadn't deleted it all when they disbanded the alliance.
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Well isnt that convenient...


And you avoiding the issue raised by both myself and Beefy. We have never claimed TD consisted of a group of angels who have never done or said anything wrong. The difference is however that we aren't the one trying to deflect and dodge the issue at hand. Like I said the point made by myself and KB was that image of ZT is no better than TD since ZT haven't done anything worse than we have and we yet we aren't the ones claiming the other is dirty while ignoring our own litany of misdeeds... Can you honestly say ZT has been the most moral alliance that has never done anything questionable and retain a straight face..... I think not?

Plus as someone who joined TD during the the final merge with Wreckless its not really my place to comment on the founding of TD, But you seem to have a sudden selective memory about support, Considering that one of my cities was one of those revolted. I for one at this time was told by Nate and Bloodcount that no support would be coming to me due to the Refugee Period and had I not sniped the CS I would have lost the city. So while Iam not calling you a liar, I do find your suggestion perhaps not exactly true since I know others were told the same. I still in fact have the comms also from Nate and Blood and would be happy to share said message if wish.

Plus for events that happened a year ago, you seem to have a good recollection of said events.
 

DeletedUser

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Yes it does help to have a good memory. Don't worry we may soon give you a reason to call us dirty.
 

DeletedUser38070

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I love reminiscing, this world has moments worth reliving.

When Da-Vinci left Wreckless, Nate and Hershin (and I think Deboy who was away) were co-founders. Someone (as Jonny says) took a city Brionia (from ZT) had reserved. I agreed with Hershin that she could decide if it was handed over, or she was given DBP as compensation, she chose the BP and so everyone in WI was ordered to send unescorted attacks. Nate didn't like this and asked if he and 15 others could join ZT, in the meantime Hershin decided to disband WI and merge into ZT. Just at that moment Da-Vinci reappeared and tried to keep WI going, although a lot had already jumped ship to ZT and the newly formed TD. I agreed with Nate a 'gentleman's agreement' (which is funny now knowing what Nate later did), we wouldn't in the short term, attack each other, it was even looser than a NAP in that it was temporary and could be broken without notice. Da-Vinci didn't stay long and Blagardo took over WI, I had no communication from him and despite attempts to make contact nothing came back, so after a while, and after giving notice, I ended the pact with Wreckless.

As Jonny says TD then began supporting others against us and so we cancelled the agreement and started World War H!

I've been responsible for most of ZT's actions and I can honestly say I tried to act honorably all along. This world would have played out differently if I'd have taken a different path in what I describe above, but those actions weren't malicious or treacherous in any way.

It was a different story when TD reneged on the NAP with ZT, but that's documented elsewhere on this forum I think and I believe was mostly Nate's doing.

Anyway all water under the bridge but it's nice to look back.
 

DeletedUser

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Johnny the B said:
Don't worry we may soon give you a reason to call us dirty.
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I heard a rumour to that effect too. I suppose if one will be called a dirty dog turd it might as well be for doing the dirtiest thing imaginable :)
 

DeletedUser

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Ah will you stop Froggy. See me after class. I am getting annoyed with this now. As long as no pacts and merges are made i have given my word now leave it.
 

DeletedUser46851

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Jonny, you have to let the thing with Nate go. that was ages ago.

Should we still bust Germany's balls for Hitler back in the 30's and 40's?

Nate did a lot of things that nobody else was aware of, call us stupid/dumb/naive it doesn't matter. He kept us out of the loop.

We haven't don despicable, terrible things. The only thing we did was get a group together and started war with you. Sheer numbers won overall yet you continue to complain about trickery. You are a broken record bud.

We tried to turn every alliance against each other? Don't remember us trying to get PAN and TE to go to war.... don't remember trying to get anyone to go after OL..... could you possibly give a name or two (you know the real damning PROOF) of former members who left and talked ? I'm sure no doubt those individuals played monumental roles within the alliance. Or are you talking about a guy with 3 cities get booted for being inactive for a month and getting all pissy? OH OH EVEN BETTER!! Why don't you bring up another member who was unhappy with what Nate did eons ago and then left/joined another alliance. I really do love a good history lesson.

It is hilarious that you paint OMOG as innocent in this. We did nothing but helped them, stayed completely out of a war they were having with an ally of ours and then they joined up with you and your "saints" and now they are attacking us. It's like a Chihuahua trying to take on a Bull Mastiff... it's cute but eventually the chihuahua gets eaten.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you are still fuming from losing your baby (ZT) but give it a rest!
 

Archidiamedes

Phrourach
RedDevils0924 said:
It is hilarious that you paint OMOG as innocent in this. We did nothing but helped them, stayed completely out of a war they were having with an ally of ours and then they joined up with you and your "saints" and now they are attacking us. It's like a Chihuahua trying to take on a Bull Mastiff... it's cute but eventually the chihuahua gets eaten.
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Unfortunately for some of your guys, there is something in this game they haven't quite understood yet called morale and they send stupid c**p like this:

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Then he follows it with a cocky message to the targeted player:

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Name withheld so you don't teach him, I quite enjoyed the 952 BP I got out of my minimal contribution.
 

DeletedUser

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Red said:
Should we still bust Germany's balls for Hitler back in the 30's and 40's?
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Yes they bombed my granny.

Archi said:
Unfortunately for some of your guys, there is something in this game they haven't quite understood yet called morale and they send stupid c**p like this:
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still not as good as the cosnuta saga tho, that was a true lesson in morale servers..which he didn't learn yet..
 

DeletedUser48096

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Really Arch? You want to talk about attacking players with shocking morale?

What about this effort from an ApocZT player attacking with 31% Morale.......

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Again the name of the player has been hidden to protect their shame...
 
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Archidiamedes

Phrourach
Am I the one who said this?

It's like a Chihuahua trying to take on a Bull Mastiff... it's cute but eventually the chihuahua gets eaten.
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The Bull Mastiff in my example got his a$$ handed to him by the chihuahua.

Thought you were done with the externals? lol
 
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DeletedUser

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new issue on sunday. i believe it will have some great headlines.
 

DeletedUser

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Jamo is busy trying to get everyone in TD banned. Judging by the amount of work he is putting in there we're probably going to get the next issue a few days late ;)
 

DeletedUser

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Everyone? Only the sith... I mean TD deal in absolutes :p

I'm with Driftworks, I look forward to the next edition of the jamo times.
 
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